Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

raven4747 t1_jai248n wrote

I mean the facts are that the "legal edibles" in PA are pretty much unregulated and anyone could put anything in that shit. why take a risk with that? all it takes is one asshole on the production/packaging side to put something funky in there and really have you fucked up. maybe not fentanyl but do you really trust these shady gummymakers to not cut costs and put something in there that's not good for you?

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raven4747 t1_jai23oe wrote

I mean the facts are that the "legal edibles" in PA are pretty much unregulated and anyone could put anything in that shit. why take a risk with that? all it takes is one asshole on the production/packaging side to put something funky in there and really have you fucked up. maybe not fentanyl but do you really trust these shady gummymakers to not cut costs and put something in there that's not good for you?

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goplantagarden t1_jai1zp6 wrote

I wouldn't rule out outright lying. The police know the media vigorously pursues any crime story, unfounded or not, and factual follow up may or may not happen. And a lot of cops LOVE to grandstand and get that super-hero treatment on TV.

US media generally sucks, but I do love ProPublica's in-depth reporting. They really care about getting their facts correct.

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raven4747 t1_jai1phm wrote

missing the point that for kids to get dispo edibles, they need an adult with a med card. the dispo system is pretty regulated and every purchase is tied to your name. as opposed to the "legal" gummies that are largely unregulated and much easier for a kid to purchase or get their hands on. even if an adult were to purchase one of those for a kid, if they paid cash there'd be nothing connecting the transaction to their name. dispo edibles would be a much safer and more secure alternative.

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Redlar t1_jai142a wrote

>Let's not stereotype so much, please. I'm a boomer and think it's a great idea

For what it's worth, the youngins say "boomer" refers not just to someone from the Boomer generation, it's used to refer to people that behave like the worst attributes of Boomers, it can also be used by people that don't care about the meaning, they just want to annoy others. It's also used to be dismissive, ex: "okay boomer" could be a response to someone overly explaining something (yes, I do get the irony of my comment)

It's funny being GenX, mostly ignored but now I get to look at the older and younger generations and see that they are using the same words but the definitions have been added to or changed and it doesn't seem anyone's been notified (the word "liberal" being another one)

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Excelius t1_jai0tcl wrote

> When will people learn that they aren't going to lace a cheaper drug with a more expensive one.

Fentanyl is cheap, and it's been pretty well documented that it sometimes turns up in other drugs like cocaine and meth. Either intentionally to create a "speedball" type product, or unintentionally because of cross-contamination in the packaging.

That said I certainly agree that the concerns over marijuana are overblown, and there's especially no reason to think that a gray-market item like Delta-8 THC edibles would be either intentionally or unintentionally laced with fentanyl.

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Super_C_Complex t1_jahzur6 wrote

Just a reminder. There are people in jail for probation violations because these tests are bullshit.

Certain probation officers I know will intentionally fuck up the tests so they pop positive.

The only way to know what's actually in something is to send it for testing and even then your can't be sure since the labs are often in cahoots with prosecutors or are addicted themselves or just are bad at their job and do batch testing.

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Excelius t1_jahzdcb wrote

It's been well known for years that the field tests that police use to detect illegal drugs are error prone, a lot of innocent people have been arrested and charged because of false positives from these tests.

Washington Post - Why are police departments still using drug field tests? > In 2016, a report by Pro Publica and the New York Times found widespread false positives and user errors by cops when administering the most popular tests. Precise error rates are hard to calculate, because some test results can be affected by variables such as weather conditions, user error and lighting conditions. Some studies have shown error rates ranging from 1 in 5 false positives to 1 in 3. But even those disturbing figures can get worse if you create an incentive for a police officer to want a positive result. In 2009, the Marijuana Policy Project used the KN Reagent field test on 42 substances that weren’t marijuana. They were able to get false positives on 70 percent of them. > >The ProPublica report also found that the most commonly used tests didn’t include warnings about the high false-positive rate, despite a 2000 guideline from the Justice Department to do so. Surprisingly, the report found that more than half of those wrongly charged after a false positive actually pleaded guilty, an indication of how the threat of serious jail time can persuade innocent people to falsely confess.

This has been known for literally decades now.

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