Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

Dain42 t1_ja6seb3 wrote

Nobody enjoys working, especially not the sort of service industry jobs that minors can get.

The clue is that they have to pay you to be there.


Also, your comment is basically just a Gish Gallop. Specious, bad faith arguments just whizzing by like telephone poles along the highway.

But, actually, just to pick the strangest one you included: hell no, 6am swim practices shouldn't be allowed!! Kids would have to be getting up around 5a to get there and be ready, so to get adequate sleep, they'd need to be getting to bed around 8 or 9 the previous night, something I guarantee highschool-aged kids are not going to be doing.

Extracurriculars shouldn't actively detract from academics. That's the same reason we regulate working conditions for minors the way we do, actually: so we don't detract from their education.

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IDGAF_Its_My_Opinion t1_ja6joj2 wrote

Great point. My daughter does both band & chorus. Next time a concert runs past 7 PM on a school night I'll make sure they shut that shit down right away.

What else could we put an end to...

No more 6 AM swim team practice before school, either. No more swim meets. Practiced an hour before school each day and 2 hours after. No sitting in the gym all day Saturday at the swim meet. You're out of time.

Let's not even talk about hockey games & practices. They can be at 5 AM or 10 PM. Then all the weekend games & tournaments.

Friday night football game two hours from home on the bus? Nope... Already practiced 3 hours a day. By the time you get there, you're off the clock. Gotta forfeit at half time to get home before the 18 hour per week clock runs out. This would include band & cheerleaders too.

Again, my point is that if a kid wants to do something productive, let them do it. Sports, band, book club, work, whatever. You say let them join clubs or sports and figure out what they enjoy. Maybe they enjoy working, or is that not a thing anymore?

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libananahammock t1_ja6fiav wrote

Fuck homework and extra help after school or band or soccer or robotics club or volunteer work or just relaxing because 8 fucking hours of school is a fucking full time job. Don’t you come home and relax a bit after work?

They have their whole lives to work and be adults and have a shitty time. Let them be kids. Let them play, let them rest, let them join clubs and sports to try and find what interests them.

That’s not saying that NO minor under 18 shouldn’t have a job but there are laws for a reason and that reason is that they get exploited by the owners that don’t give a fuck about them and that decades of research and history has shown us what is and isn’t healthy and safe for kids. But you know better compared to all of that I’m guessing, right?

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IDGAF_Its_My_Opinion t1_ja6cm4z wrote

"illegally allowed 154 minors, ages 14 and 15, to work at times not permitted by child labor laws"

Allowed them to work, didn't force them. Kids probably wanted the extra money. Maybe covered shifts for others thinking they were doing the right thing.

I have a 12 year old and would be thrilled if she wanted a job at 14 or 15. I would be even more proud of her if she said she wanted to work early or stay late because she had the opportunity.

7PM on a school night is a joke. No 14 or 15 year old is going to bed at 8 PM. Ah, yes homework... Another part of growing up. You have to manage your time. If you can't stay late, don't ask to stay late. If grades are an issue then that's my job to put my foot down and say no.

18 hours a week is a joke, done w/ school around 3, could work 3-4 hours a night 3-4 days a week, but couldn't pickup a weekend shift b/c they are out of time.

I agree w/ the fryer issue. Wouldn't want a 14/15 kid or even a 16/17 on a fryer.

Let the down votes begin. I'll assume it's b/c you want your fries made by a 14 year old.

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ktxhopem3276 t1_ja5xjqe wrote

Read the article and you will see how dire the funding problem is. If the state doesn’t have a turnaround in its financial fate in the future, even further cuts aren’t out of the question unless republicans support a significant income tax increase

Although the plans’ funded level remained relatively low in 2020 at 58%—below the national average of 70%

But unfunded benefit increases and a longtime pattern of not fully funding annual required contributions meant that the state went from a $20 billion surplus in 2000 to a $60 billion deficit in 2015—one of the largest dips recorded nationwide.

The changes made by Act 120 were important steppingstones to Pennsylvania's pension turnaround. Still, they did not fully address the risk of future unfunded liabilities that could strain the state’s ability to fund pension benefits. As a result, lawmakers overwhelmingly—and on a bipartisan basis—approved Act 5 in 2017. That law made additional improvements to funding policy and put in place a new benefit plan design, called a risk-managed hybrid plan,

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ktxhopem3276 t1_ja5w1kp wrote

> What's great is that the teachers aren't complaining. The PFT and PSEA have not told them to complain, and continue shilling for nearly every democratic candidate.

If you think any of the recent Republican candidates would raise teacher pensions you are mistaken. The republicans are only interested in more unregulated charter schools that are bleeding money from schools.

> The older teachers (like me) who understand what happened won't be impacted. The younger teachers (as mentioned) are to young to realize.

Most of them know they are worse off than their seniors and it is depressing. A lot of people are just happy to be in a state with decent compensation. PA spends the 11th most in the country on teacher salaries.

> I wonder why Corbet didn't just abolish the system, as you suggest? Under his governship the contribution rate actually increased to 10.3%, attempting to at least increase funding, before Wolf decimated it.

Because the state budget has been starved to death since then. It’s a a Republican tactic known as “starve the beast” so they can get deeper cuts in the future. The republicans have had control of the state senate for many decades. Their fingerprints are all over the current mess the state budget is in

> Here is a link to the 7 member classes and contribution rates. I think the example you are looking at only references 3 of the 7 classes. You don't move through the classes based on the year, you stay in the the class for the year you were hired. Fortunately my rate is locked in at 7.5%.

I get that they are locked into a class when they are hired but two posts ago you listed the db rates but said they were the dc rates. The new lower db rates of 5.5 and 4.5 come with a 2% dc contribution that doesn’t come from salary.

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> I know changes were necessary. I just think the should have made changes to make it similar to police/fireman (on NYC teachers) where you can collect around 50% at 25 years w/ no penalty, instead of 50% at 35 years, starting a second career in your 40's.

Do new teachers transferring from other careers start at a higher salary than a new grad? They probably should. It’s a little unrealistic to expect the pension system to make up for someone changing careers. maybe they need to scale the multiplier higher for people who start teaching at an older age.

This exposes the issue with defined pension plans because you have to vest. However, you can still vest at 10 years of service or age 67 with 3 years of service. 50 percent at 25 years is a very good pension and police and firefighters get it as hazard pay. I would argue they should get lesser pensions - closer to the current teacher benefits. They are just too expensive for our state - our tax base is elderly and older people can hardly afford to pay property taxes to stay in their houses. Police and firefighter has a special ability to tar and feather anyone that opposes them and teachers m don’t have that level of power in politics

> I also think the teachers continue to tow water for the democrats when they should, at the very least, be vocal about how the changes under Wolf were not pro-teacher. Yet they praise him like jebus.

when teachers criticize democrats for not being generous enough it turns off voters. It’s counter productive in all but the most extreme circumstances

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MeadowLedger t1_ja5smov wrote

Career Link is a service to match employers with potential employees. They are the resource the PA Unemployment system uses to help people find suitable work in PA while collecting unemployment.

This link can explain the process for verifying how to meet the requirement to apply for two jobs per week better than I can. It's the work search instructions

I'm not sure how/if the State verifies whether or not a potential employer called or emailed with an offer for an interview. What I have seen is after a few weeks of no offers, no interviews, the person was required to go to the office for evaluation to match them with a suitable job.

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