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Title26 t1_je7oz81 wrote

Reply to comment by Trobus in So, in the Punk-Rock world, beginning to end, is there any band more ‘Punk’ than NOFX? by thud83

It all gets rather complicated because the shift from the first "punk" bands to offshoots in hardcore and post-punk and metal subgernre all happened in a very short span. The Ramones first album came out in 1976 and within the span of just a few years, "punk" had already taken many new forms. Hell, Pere Ubu was making "post-punk" in the late 70s before some albums we would consider classics of the punk genre even came out (The Modern Dance predates London Calling by a year and their first single in 1975 predates even the Ramones). Black Flag had already pioneered LA hardcore and then put out the first Sludge Metal album in 1984 while many hardcore bands were just getting started, and a couple years prior, bands like Minutemen and Squirrel Bait were starting "post-hardcore" while at the same time Bad Brains were putting out classics of regular old hardcore.

All that is to say, new genres were starting before their "predecessors" had stopped developing. I'd agree with you that Television isn't proto-punk. It's post-punk, even though it came out during punks heyday. It all changed so fast it kind of blends. Which is why it's easier to classify based on sound than time.

I would consider The Modern Lovers self titled album to be proto-punk even though it came out in 1976, the same year as the Ramones self titled (a true "punk" album) and the same year as early Pere Ubu stuff ("post punk").

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vch01 OP t1_je7m0g6 wrote

Reply to comment by foresyte in Keith Reid, founding member and lyricist of Procol Harum, has passed away aged 76. by vch01

For better or worse, it’s actually a very common practice in songwriting. The riff, however crucial to the song it is, was merely part of the arrangement. In a band setting the person who mapped out the basic song structure is the one getting the songwriting credit.

For instance, Freddie Mercury is credited as the sole writer of Bohemian Rhapsody even though the legendary guitar solo was entirely composed by Brian May.

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xmeister2k2 t1_je7lvyb wrote

Reply to Tell me about the concept of an album that you think is brilliant. by akacoline

Radio K.A.O.S - Roger Waters.

Nothing amazing, some of the songs (unsurprisingly) have a 'The Wall/Final Cut' feel. There are some catchy tunes and interesting story cumulation. I just fired it up on YouTube - probably haven't listed to it in 30 years!

His other album of the era 'Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking' is also a concept album and probably better musically but thematically/concept wise this is more memorable.

From Wikipedia:

The album follows Billy, a mentally and physically disabled man from Wales, forced to live with his uncle David in Los Angeles after his brother Benny is sent to prison following an act intended to support striking coal miners which results in the death of a taxi driver, and his dismissal from his mining job due to "market forces". The album explores Billy's view of the world through an on-air conversation between him and Jim, a disc jockey (DJ) at a fictitious local radio station named Radio KAOS.

Billy is a 23-year-old Welshman from the South Wales Valleys. He is mentally and physically disabled as a result of cerebral palsy, uses a wheelchair and is only able to work his upper body. Though he is perceived as mentally challenged, his disability has actually made him not only a genius, but also superhuman, as he also has the ability to literally hear radio waves throughout all frequencies without aid.

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foresyte t1_je7k7ag wrote

Reply to Keith Reid, founding member and lyricist of Procol Harum, has passed away aged 76. by vch01

I love Whiter Shade of Pale so much, it was a huge part of my musical experience while growing up. But, and I'm sorry to be that guy, but Matthew Fisher was forced to fight for decades against Gary Brooker and Keith Reid to get his fair share of recognition for his absolutely definitive Hammond Organ part of this song. He didn't even win past royalties, only future ones. But they always insisted that he didn't write those parts at all.

I just can't be an 'rip' person for Keith when he screwed over Matthew for most of their lives.

Again, I'm sorry, but I love this song too much to ignore the history and the harm Keith and Gary selfishly caused.

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VampireHunterAlex t1_je7jzmr wrote

Reply to How Have One-Hit Wonders Changed Over Time? by Maruf2014

The difference is that it’s now easier than ever to be completely shut-off from whatever is considered popular these days. There’s plenty of great music out there, whether still being created or from the massive catalog available. I think the last Taylor Swift song I can recall is Shake it Off, and that’s gotta be pushing a decade old now, yet I’m aware she’s arguably the biggest star out there in music.

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JaredTheRed t1_je7jt73 wrote

Reply to How Have One-Hit Wonders Changed Over Time? by Maruf2014

Not the best example, but tik tok's influence has changed how a lot of artists orchestrate their music. A lot of songs currently have their "drop" in the beginning as opposed to later because they have to hook audiences faster than waiting for it to hit. Doja Cat's - Streets (silhouette) is an an example I can think of immediately (even though Doja is FAR from a one hit wonder/the opposite) but it's part of a movement that inspired a "tik tok challenge". So lots more "1 hit wonder" types that I have personally noticed seem to be trying to capitalize on this.

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