It would probably cost 30-60k to replace windows

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Sure, but why make kids lives even shittier? Let them enjoy being a kid before hell starts for them. My goal was to be at skill as little as possible and I turned out great. Have also never worked a 9-5

Maine’s 1:1 net metering is pretty favorable for homeowners.

I used Maine Commercial Solar, which is basically a side business of the general contractor that also built my house. Cost less than Revision. I’ve had it about a year and a half and I’ve had no problems.

Total cost was around 27,000 before tax incentives. I paid cash and didn’t finance it.

I mean, that's what adults deal with sooner or later

I have an appointment with them next week to discuss adding a ground mounted solar panel. They stopped by yesterday to check out the spot where it's going to be and it looks great

Do you mind sharing how much the panel + installation was and if it is a ground mount or roof? We are anxiously waiting for the estimate next week and have no idea what it will look like. I'm thinking it's going to be close to $30k but honestly don't know

This idea has been floated many times since I was in HS. And it's interesting to hear the real world example. It's not that there may not be some benefits specifically to teenagers. But I admit that I've always wondered what the actual impact of the change would be. As if once you made the switch teenagers would all of a sudden come into school bright eyed and well adjusted. Not still like the hormonal maniacs they are, just an hour later.

That sounds so terrible.

Work on the farm

> I would think that as a culture we see school sports as at least a 5% net positive or growth for adolescents.

I think you're right on this, as far as cultural perceived benefits.

Proving that our populace is bad at math, and should have played fewer sports.

50k in sports, 175k total students. We should disregard the minority interest, sports would need to be like a 17% bump to break even.

Why is that?

The comment I was responding to was just straight up accusing people in favor of later start times of misinterpretation of studies which is a bad argument imo. You are making a completely different bad argument here. Sports are good for kids, but I cannot agree that they should take preference over learning. Bussing is an issue, but to act like it can’t be solved and kids have to start school unreasonably early just strikes me as a lazy argument.

We went with Revision but they're so booked out that they're hard to recommend. If you're in Southern Maine, Assured Solar and Maine Solar Solutions were two other companies I worked with on quotes and felt confident that they would do an excellent job. My neighbors went with Assured and had nothing but glowing reviews for them.

It’s cost benefit. A 2018 study on this found a 4.5% increase in grades between early and later starting times. We aren’t talking huge changes here. I would think that as a culture we see school sports as at least a 5% net positive or growth for adolescents.

Maine Solar Solutions, they were excellent and a Mosaic loan @2.99%. The loan allowed us to replace the external house connection, which was not up to code, upgrade with a new box to 200 amps, and fix some other electrical problems and install heatpump and 2 heads.

We should decide the cost benefit for incremental increases. What do we lose when we improve the system a small amount. Is it worth losing school sports to increase individuals focus a few percentage points? I don’t think so, not when we haven’t maxed out non structural improvements such as higher teacher wages, smaller class sizes, more technology etc.

Uh what? Lol are you okay? Did you just creep and see I have a dog and assume I have no children haha wth. I don't put my children's photos online. When I creep you I just see masses of downvotes on all your comments. Do some reflecting.

I love when dog moms tell me how to parent, it’s chef kiss

Maine has to be the worst state for a homeowner to put solar up in. In Massachusetts it would be a monthly payment of about 1/3 of your former electric bill for the next 20 years.

But we are pointing out all the realities of the situation that make also factor into the equation. A later start time would improve their learning, but learning is not currently failing so you then need to say what would be the cost of this incremental adjustment, and that’s where all of these other points come in. Then it’s a cost benefit of “is this incremental improvement worth getting rid of school sports, screwing up bussing etc” to which we are saying no it’s not worth it. No one is arguing with the premise of the data we are arguing whether the implementation is worth it

Not suggesting 8-5 constant classes! Maybe a long lunch break with time for socializing and sports mixed in during the school day

I think it’s non issue. The lack of sleep is avoidable by going to bed earlier. Going to bed later would - likewise - make for less sleep.

If the school day shifted later, so would all the after school activities that keep them from getting sleep. They’d just have less daylight after school.

As a teacher, I’d personally rather have a 9-5 schedule than 7:30-3:30. But I don’t think it would have the effect on students that people think it would.

Summer school starts later. Kids still show up later and complain that they didn’t get enough sleep. They’re just going to be at 3 instead of 1.

Pine tree solar, they were good. Mosaic for 10 year loan, you'll get 30% back on tax return next year. We used the tax return to install heat pumps instead of putting it towards the loan.

> The so-called benefit of having sleep schedules match up with school times never happened as parents of lids those ages didn’t step up (shocker!) and attempt to get their kids asleep at the same times as prior.

That is interesting as research has shown the opposite. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aau6200 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4824552/