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big_bertnor t1_j9y16a2 wrote

Reply to Detour on 17 by JimBones31

Hey, did anyone else almost plow into the unreflective portable road closed triangle sign in the middle of the pitch black road coming from Augusta that night? I know the 4 cars behind me almost swerved off the road too. A light or reflector at the fork please.

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HumpSlackWails t1_j9y05yf wrote

Reply to comment by MosskeepForest in Transgender teacher dismissed for sharing inappropriate TikTok videos with Maine middle school students by jaypr4576

"Propaganda targeting minorities should be a criminal offense."

Unless its propaganda you agree with, of course. This is why the issue is how it isn't a person's place, in this venue, to be marketing their political and social activism accounts to school children at all, regardless of content.... and not who is making content.

I understand you have very strong beliefs about how kids deserve access to this information and its okay to push them towards it.

Its not your place to decide that that is okay in the classroom and other people have disagreed. I wouldn't want my kids being pushed to a trans-hating account on a classroom-wide basis, and I don't want other people pushing their personal lives and stories out onto them either.

And for as much as you invoke other "inappropriate" content teachers might push kids to or whatever... challenge them on the merits. Educationally related content? Not gonna win complaining about that. Not-activist or commentary content, just life? Also not the same.

A video of two trans people going out to see Ant Man and then having a slice of pizza at Otto's isn't the same thing as an entire tik tok channel devoted to exploring the trans experience and someone transitioning. Intent of content and intent behind marketing it both matter for all populations.

Marketing certain types of content to kids is always going to be seen as unacceptable. If you think some straight person would get away with marketing their "come see my straight life and how great being straight is" channel exploring their exploration of heterosexual gender-normative life is?

You're actually quite mistaken and even right wing folks, mothers especially, would ask about people glorifying their lifestyle in that kind of pointed, targeted way, then pushing kids toward it. I have right wing friends. Who do not like their kids watching Tate.

People might need access, exposure and representation. It does not mean that they are free to do whatever they want to get it without ever facing any blowback.

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HumpSlackWails t1_j9xzl17 wrote

Reply to comment by ainskohler in Transgender teacher dismissed for sharing inappropriate TikTok videos with Maine middle school students by jaypr4576

At the very least I think folks need to understand other people's kids aren't pools for unchecked activism.

Helping a kid who comes to you with a question in privacy and confidence is one thing...

Broadcasting your social activism to classrooms... eh... not the same thing.

Wouldn't want the bigots doing it, hiding behind this same rationale, don't want others doing it either.

And identity choices and gender and sex discussions also =/= pokemon or hobbies. All content is not equal. Sometimes not every population is yours to educate or expose, sorry. And what a person might say is just "providing information so they can access it" others might see as "marketing."

Because it is.

If you'd be mad if Jimbo Transphobe McRacist wrote his handle on the board and kids wandered off down a hole of carefully crafted anti-marginalized people commentary? Well that wouldn't be his place. And its about the place. Not the quality of content.

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HumpSlackWails t1_j9xypj0 wrote

Reply to comment by eliot_cutler in Transgender teacher dismissed for sharing inappropriate TikTok videos with Maine middle school students by jaypr4576

My child has a male teacher and I'm not spending all my time worried he's trying to bone his students.

But you DO bring up a good point that, at least for the right wingers willing to craft reductive policy to "protect the kids," needs to be addressed:

Men are the overwhelming perpetrators of all violent and sexual crime regardless of the gender identity of the victim.

What are we going to do to protect our girls, boys, women and - yes - even other men - from the horrific violent tendencies men display and their predilection towards sexual violence?

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