Holy fucking shit, I've never heard anyone but my parents reference this. They bought a dvd or tape of their "show" awhile ago so I could see it, and it is painfully hilarious.

And you were selling more than sea shells on melon Street huh?

And you know that a bad first experience at venue or the first experience in a long time will deter people from coming back. It's a shit show overall at either venue. So people don't wanna go back.

Here's the truth no one wants to say or look at. Before I get into the nitty gritty I will be the first to say I despise the city of Biddeford and the city of Sanford. However they have both done good jobs of turn dilapidated architecture to their advantage drawing both customer base and businesses to their cities. They did this by not catering to their college communities but their 20-40communities.

Bangor relies on Orono mainly to supply their businesses with income. Hard truth but truth regardless. Their college community is who they hope to market towards. This is everything from the sushi and steal restaurant, to mexicali blues to walmart. A cursory look at the products from local shops tell you this.

They are also struggling with a drug and homeless problem. Their answer to which is to dent the jail and expansion or any proper upgrades in favor of a recovery solution which is undefined unplanned and unlikely to ever happen. The entire city counsel is out of touch and hoping that concerts, gambling, Stephen King, and college students will keep their economy afloat.

They have no hopes of providing any businesses any incentives of growing, adding to the IT infrastructure offerings, or protecting their city from addiction, prostitution, or the like..

This isn't right vs left this is a bunch of out of touch people trying to win reelection seats by giving the college community an image of liberalism all the while claiming to be a conservative city hard on crime and protecting maine values. It's a confusing mess with no real direction.

The Rock Art Shop Downtown Bangor.

I don’t think you’re wrong - maybe my comment was a little vague, but I am really talking about a room with like 200-800capacity.

Sure, we will get Stapleton or Aerosmith to show up at the waterfront, and that will bring in folks from all over for a night, but if you are a band with a 500 person draw, there is absolutely no reason to ever travel north of Portland. That kind of venue could operate year round, with a much fuller schedule, and would give the people who already live in Bangor a reason to go have a nice night out (as opposed to people from hours away spending hundreds of dollars on tickets and parking once or twice a year).

If we’re talking about abstract concepts like vitality and culture, IMO those sort of smaller venues have much more impact than the waterfront ever could.

Obviously if we take the longgggg view, maybe waterfront brings in cash, that cash somehow magically creates a city more likely to support those sorts of smaller venues, who knows. I’m skeptical, as the waterfronts and casino have been doing their thing for years now, and I haven’t seen the slightest change for the average resident.

Try to go down Stillwater on a Saturday afternoon. You’ll be in a line a half mile or more long from Texas Roadhouse all the way back near goodwill if you catch it just right.

not sure it's exactly what you're looking for, but in Cherryfield there are two antique shops. One has a bunch of rooms that are sort of vendor stalls with various antiques, the other has just a bunch of old stuff, furniture, tools, whatever you can imagine. I got a huge cast iron mortar and pestle from there.

The names of the stores are Back In The Good Old Days and 4 Main Street Antiques.

If I could upvote this more I would hahahahaha

Nervous Nellie’s in Stonington. Not so much for the shopping as the spooky eclectic vibe. Go on a sunny afternoon and spend a couple hours (mostly outdoors).

Rumford is depressing.

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Looks really big!

Portland does draw from all directions, something Bangor struggles with.

Portland isn't the best port for trade but it is significantly better than Bangor.

Edit: I would absolutely love if Portland got a good size container terminal.

I agree, COVID hurt, but it could start climbing up. I see good things. Rock Steady is much appreciated. There is a lot of potential there

On the wings of a snow white dove ...

I played 4 years of High school varsity baseball and it is the only regret I had. Wish I had played tennis with my friends instead of hanging with the toxic loser baseball players

I mean you said oob and motorcycle you automatically get shit on. No one wants to hear it in a packed area full of annoying tourists in a town where any sport besides football doesn't matter and they let locals torch their own businesses for insurance money. The only thing OOB did decent was "in the bedroom" and even Nick Stahl looks like a junkie. It's not Canadians it's all of york county ots a joke, and a shame for maine.

Lewiston doesnt seem THAT bad nowadays... ever been to Rumford?

I was in Bangor Oct 2022. It still felt really dim. Not much traffic, no one walking around.

Is Bangor a nice place to visit for a family friendly vacation or would you recommend another city/area of Maine?

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And the Canadians loved it!

Bobcat vs Lynx

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