Sadly I haven't worked with him. We haven't done any scenes together. But I agree. He's one of my favorites. Hilarious. Brilliant actor with superb comic timing

Has Leo been able to hear the podcast?

Holy cow! Listening to the pod cast now. I hate that this can happen in this country. Prosecutors should be held accountable for crap like this. This is criminal. I donated 30.00 to innocence. How can a human being sleep at night knowing they have used their power and prowess to convict an innocent man? He had to know he was innocent. That is as much of a crime as the murder. 🤮

I appreciate the thorough response and the extra background information. I still think this falls in a trap common in true crime and podcasting where the "story" becomes so important that things as drastic as striking your 18 year old wife get tossed to the side without "more than a brief pause."

If you put a fraction of the empathy you put to the wife-beater who's in prison for the wrong crime to any of the women who suffer intimate partner violence, it would give you more than "a brief pause."

How is it getting to work with Adam devine? He seems like a hysterical person to be around

Thank you to everyone who is taking part. I'm going to be checking back in again in a little while. In the mean time do catch my movie Introducing Jodea that's out on all major platforms. Both Amazon and Itunes have it at half price this week especially because of the promotions we're running. You're welcome to hop online again and ask me any questions after seeing the film about how certain things were done on such a small budget. Thanks again to everyone!

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Jodea-Chloe-Traicos/dp/B09LYJR5BY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1N83SENN86HQX&keywords=introducing+jodea&qid=1668627702&sprefix=introducing+jode%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-1

https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/introducing-jodea/id1589300443

Q1 - In Jeremy's confession of Michelle's murder, he claimed to only steal part of the stereo system in Michelle's car, because he couldn't get the rest of it out. Would that be information "only the killer would know" or was it made public during the trial?

Q2 - In his original statement to police, Jeremy said he used his girlfriend's car to get to Michelle's car to steal her stereo (but you said he didn't even meet that girl until some weeks later.) Does that fact - that he didn't have a car to use to get to where the Michelle's car was found - make his original alibi much less likely? (I haven't seen a map of where all the various events occurred, but it seems like the car was out in the boonies, somewhere Jeremy was unlikely to have reached on foot. Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

EDIT: Q2 - Bone Valley podcast, Ep 6 around 52:10 (MacOS version, iOS happens earlier.) Asst. State Attorney C J Benefield questioning Jeremy Scott (2010): when asked how he got around to steal car stereos, Scott says he borrowed the car of his girlfriend, Jamie. He remembers the exact date he met Jamie, as April 17, 1987 (which is several weeks after Michelle’s murder on February 24, 1987, so he couldn't have used Jamie's car.) Later in the episode Jamie says the area where the Michelle's murder occurred was a place Jeremy had taken her to more than a few times to have sex.

Bone Valley:“Chapter 6 | Know That I Know”

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bone-valley/id1643974551?i=1000581701241

Thank you both for all you do and are doing I love listening to you, you make me feel like I'm there. As a citizen of United States is there any thing I can do to help you help Leo? Maybe send a letter to someone or call someone?

You’re right that Leo has openly admitted to striking Michelle on a couple occasions. I personally am fortunate to have no experience with intimate partner violence, so I can’t speak from that place, but I have spent a lot of time with Leo. He’s been willing to discuss the times he struck Michelle, and he’s expressed remorse for who he was and how he behaved at age 21. And, I believe him. I feel like he’s genuinely sorry and has grown immensely in the time since. That being said, Gilbert and I have had many, many conversations about this over the years. We’ve always anticipated having to answer these questions, and yet it is never easy.
We’ve looked at all the testimony and we’ve spoken to everyone who would agree to talk. And there are a few credible witness statements. But, there are also a few instances that were testified to that Leo says just didn’t happen. Stuff like this is hard to prove or disprove, especially 35 years after the fact. But what we do know is that Leo’s prosecutor, and the detectives in this case, were motivated to find witnesses who would testify to Leo’s violence and bad behavior. The conviction hinged on this bad character evidence. What we don’t have are any reports filed against Leo, anyone who ever called the cops on him, or anyone who can claim they ever saw a bruise on Michelle. I do know that domestic violence is oftentimes a very private thing, but without any evidence like this, it just never amounted to enough for us to turn away from this case.
At the end of the day, Leo was convicted for murder, and there’s not much hard evidence to support that he was capable of a crime like this, and even less to support that he’s guilty of the murder. On the other hand, we know that Jeremy Scott is capable of a crime like this. And, he’s forensically linked to Michelle’s murder, and has confessed to it.
Since his conviction, Leo has remarried. Leo and his wife Crissie have now been together for 26 years. Crissie wants nothing more than to have Leo home with her. As does their daughter, Ashley, and her two children.
All this is to say, these questions and concerns are valid. These are things I’ve grappled with numerous times over the past four years. But I haven’t seen anything that has given me pause, for more than a brief moment. And I certainly haven’t seen anything that has caused me to question the time and energy I’ve put into this investigation.
I wholeheartedly believe in Leo’s innocence, and I see him as a person of integrity and deep moral conviction. I believe he is worthy of everything I’ve invested into this project and this case.

-KD

So many. I loved it when Walton and I went down behind the haystack at Judy's birthday party. That was fun. We tried it so many ways. With my lipstick smudged .I also loved watching Judy receiving her presents and Jesse throwing up. They all just made me crack up.

What was the funniest scene you filmed?

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Joe Zarbo doesn’t remember much about the day Michelle was found. At that time, he was a patrol officer and was tasked only with guarding the crime scene, while other detectives and crime scene technicians worked the scene. -KD

Leo’s attorneys have contemplated taking the case to the federal level. It is my understanding that the chances of Leo finding any relief at that level are very slim. But they are weighing all his options and we certainly trust his attorneys to make the right call on this, as does Leo.

-KD & GK

Because of the fact that Jeremy Scott, who is forensically tied to the crime scene by his fingerprints, has confessed in detail to killing Michelle, we think it’s unlikely that there’s any new evidentiary discoveries that might make a legal difference, given the post-conviction obstacles in Leo’s case. But, if anything comes to light that feels significant to the telling of this story, we will be sure to update the Bone Valley podcast with bonus episodes. -GK

This is so helpful and appreciated! I will be looking into this. Thank you so much!! -KD

They are. You don't need money to make a great film. ......... Well depends on the film of course but I think these ones prove my point

No blood was found in the front of the Mazda. We elaborated a bit on this, and our theories about it, in another response. As for the link between neighbor Alice Scott and Jeremy Scott, there is no relation! That was one of the very first things the cold case detectives looked into after Jeremy’s fingerprints were identified.

-KD

Because Gilbert is a bit of a Luddite and didn’t realize his selfie was going to be public.

-GK

Oh wow... what woudn't I like to see?

😂😂

There are so many cool characters.Definitely more of BJ interacting with the Gemstones. That's my favorite part. Him and Judy rock!

Heya. I've done both. My first movie in the US " Devil's Cove" I self financed completely and we shot it on the shoe string budget of $10K. For Introducing Jodea I had 2 other friends/ investors who came on board with me. It's always good to find people to invest with you but sometimes if there's a project you're truly passionate about and nobody wants to invest.- the only answer is to do it yourself. Crowdfund. Save your money. Whatever works.

What would you like personally to see in the next season of the righteous gemstones?

For you films, do you normally self finance, or are there any financial partners/grants that are involved?

Thanks so much!

Thank you for this response, and I wish you nothing but continued success!