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jphamlore t1_jecmeo8 wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
There's going to be a huge need for full-time caretakers for the aging.
samwell_4548 t1_jecmacd wrote
Reply to comment by AnonFor99Reasons in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
But why would it subtly pull levels if it could get rid of us much quicker, I don't see the motivation in prolonging our existence from the perspective of an ai that seeks to get rid of us.
ninjadude93 t1_jecln8c wrote
Reply to comment by yeah_i_am_new_here in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
If you dont have a system capable of logical reasoning you dont have an AGI
South_Cheesecake6316 t1_jecllt2 wrote
Reply to When do you think it will be possible to create a video from a memory with just a helmet over the head? by Possible_Being_3189
We already have neural networks that can create images that roughly resemble what a person is looking at.
I don't think it would entirely be out of the question for people to be able make videos from thought when asked to recall a memory.
However, although the subject and location of these videos would often be correct, I doubt the smaller details in these videos would be at all consistantly accurate or exist at all. I highly doubt that you would be able to scan a person's memory for clues like in some sci-fi movie, because ultimately memory is flawed and peoples brains will fabricate details to fill in the gaps.
Short answer, yes but it won't be a perfect copy of what happened.
Franklin_le_Tanklin t1_jecl7iu wrote
Reply to comment by capcaunul in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
Lulz. Tell me more about how you don’t understand how government works
Tripwir62 t1_jecl3f1 wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
This is a real issue. Knowledge workers of every stripe will no longer be needed. You’ve all probably seen that GPT-4 passes the Bar exam at the 90th percentile. I see no good outcomes.
SlurpinAnalGravy t1_jeckzzs wrote
Reply to comment by stupidcasey in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
You should probably read his comments then. 👉😎👉
ESPiNstigator t1_jeck8qj wrote
He who doesn’t use petroleum products or gasoline, cast the first stone. . . If the market wasn’t requiring more oil we wouldn’t make it.
Worldwide, we recently tried banning/limiting oil and gas production then paid through the roof because we didn’t stop using it.
alranach t1_jecjzht wrote
Reply to comment by megapillowcase in Former Google engineer predicts humans will achieve immortality within eight years by dustofoblivion123
Life is meaningful because I find meaning in it, not because it has to end. Also, there's always going to be accidents, murders, suicides and such. Plus the whole damn universe is gonna take a shit someday so it's not like it's indefinite
alranach t1_jecjsfk wrote
Reply to comment by Red_Aurora1917 in Former Google engineer predicts humans will achieve immortality within eight years by dustofoblivion123
Yes? Why the hell wouldn't I?
sorengray t1_jecjmx6 wrote
The Dead Internet theory is pretty much about that... https://youtu.be/mlR9fCXfWyM
Snakepli55ken t1_jeciwod wrote
Reply to comment by capcaunul in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about lol. Stick to Romanian politics.
stupidcasey t1_jecis5i wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
Huh, coming in with no knowledge of what OP said, and yet I’m not confused at all… it’s almost like people regurgitate, political, talking points.
beingsubmitted t1_jecici1 wrote
Reply to comment by YummyMummy2024 in Google Accused of Using ChatGPT Algorithms in Creating Its Neural Network by MINE_exchange
The algorithm is barely IP, and the data is the bigger part of it's success.
ChatGPT is a reinforcement learning tuned transformer. The ideas and architecture it's built on aren't proprietary. The specific parameters are, but that's not actually that important. The size and number of layers, for example. Most people in ai can make some assumptions. Probably ReLU, probably Adam, etc. Then there are different knobs you can twiddle and with some trial and error you dial it in.
The size and quality of your training data is way more important, and in the case of chatgpt, so is your compute power. Lots of people can design a system that big, it's as easy as it is to come up with big numbers, but training it takes a ton of compute power, which costs money, which is why just anyone hasn't already done it if it's so easy.
It should also be said that GPT is a bit of a surprise success. Before models this size, it was a big risk. You're gonna spend millions to train a model, and you won't know until it's done how good it will be.
Most advancements in AI are open source and public. Those all help advance the field, but at the same time, it's also about taking a bit of a risk, and waiting to see how it pans out before taking the next risk.
Also, there's transfer learning. If you spend a hundred million training a model, I can use your trained model and a fraction of the money to make my own .
It's like if you laboriously took painstaking measurements to figure out an exact kilogram and craft a 1kg weight. You didn't invent the kilogram, difficult as it was to make it. If I use yours to make my own, I'm not infringing on your IP.
Semifreak t1_jeci8px wrote
Reply to comment by Poly_and_RA in The EU Parliament and Council agree to mandate charging stations every 60km by 2026 by filosoful
Indeed.
It's strange how some commenters (here and elsewhere) don't just express doubt about future positive plans targets, but are almost barking at anything else commented that isn't completely negative and attacking.
I don't know if they are just having a bad day and venting randomly or something else odd going on.
Humans gonna human, I guess.
Rehk_135 t1_jeci2nu wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
Humans have a need for fulfillment and meaning. Even if you don't have to work, most people will want to do...something. The alternative is the human equivalent to the rat utopia experiment.
Probably not as bad, but it's very common for people retiring to go through some depression due to feeling a lack of purpose.
What we'd end up doing? Who knows. Sports, volunteering, exploration, tending to nature, religion, spirituality, or learning for the hell of it are all plausible. I'm sure many would slip through the cracks too and end up miserable no matter what.
Good news bad news though... Good news we won't have to worry about this. Bad news is that's cause a dystopian hellscape is far more likely than a scarcity free utopia, imho.
manicdee33 t1_jeci1fa wrote
Reply to comment by Cubey42 in In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
Nah, there's a level in there somewhere where human population is stable and able to continue being creative and inventive, how cute is it when humans think they've discovered a new law of physics? Awww!
If you go higher they end up over-consuming the renewable resources such as fresh water. If you go lower the population ends up getting inbred or just dying off completely.
Also by managing the human population (and a small number of predator species populations outside the human zone of influence) the rest of the ecosystem manages itself quite handily.
Oh, have you seen what we did with Mars and Venus? The Venusian fjords are just chef's kiss.
Semifreak t1_jechp56 wrote
Reply to comment by brett1081 in The EU Parliament and Council agree to mandate charging stations every 60km by 2026 by filosoful
Well then it is a good thing you aren't the head of the EU council.
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Reply to Panera to adopt palm-reading payment systems, sparking privacy fears | Biometrics by ethereal3xp
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theluckyfrog t1_jecgyco wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Cultured Chicken Is a Step Closer as a Second US Company Gets FDA Approved by virtualmase
You ever had a hotdog? At least this product won't contain anus meat.
Cubey42 t1_jecgkck wrote
Reply to comment by manicdee33 in In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
Population must've been set to 0 and set the scarity to "nuclear wasteland"
Cerulean_IsFancyBlue t1_jecghpo wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
So this is interesting. On the one hand, I am very pessimistic, that we are anywhere close to achieving a human intelligence and cognition. I don’t think it possesses intuition or feelings, or any of the things that you might think are necessary for true creativity.
But … this might be a generation of AI that is actually better at creativity than it is at being factual and correct. Language generation has the ability to produce sentences that are plausible and coherent. But without some kind of additional subsystem it’s actually not very good at fact checking. So it’s possible that this tool will be a boost to human creativity by being able to generate tons of alternatives and variations on ideas, and and not a boost to human accuracy or precision like many previous generations of “Thinking Machines” have done.
GPT is less “calculator” and more “crazy friend who spits out inspiring nonsense”. It produces fanciful novel output — made of the things you put into it, rearranged. But it does so in such a powerful way, drawing on such a wealth of examples, that the output can actually feel creative. Usually it’s creative via an existing style, so it’s a derivative sort of creativity, if that’s not an oxymoron.
But anyway. I find it interesting that in terms of how this to boost human abilities, it’s more of a creativity boost.
yeah_i_am_new_here OP t1_jecg2aw wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
I love the comparison to how DNA has developed. Definitely a great parallel to draw there that I haven't heard before - what a thought!! I agree with everything you're saying. Thanks for the thoughtful replies!
Ansalem1 t1_jecfxan wrote
Reply to comment by DragonForg in Is there a natural tendency in moral alignment? by JAREDSAVAGE
I agree with pretty much all of that. I've been getting more hopeful lately, for the most part. It really does look like we can get it right. That said, I think we should keep in mind that more than a few actual geniuses have cautioned strongly against the dangers. So, you know.
But I'm on the optimistic side of the fence right now, and yeah if it does go bad it'll absolutely be because of negligence and not inability.
samwell_4548 t1_jecmnfm wrote
Reply to comment by FormerHoagie in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
Why would stopping change anything, if the companies that collect your data already know you looked up weird porn, stopping won't change that data.