Thank God the "nanobots inside your body controlled by AI radio waves" is 100% not possible kookiness... right?

Imagine mixing up ingredients and getting a meat cake

Sucking at something is the first step in becoming kinda good at it.

> Why would they value human life to the detriment all other species?

Because we made them?

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Garbage in garbage out. As an engineer I have watched computer programs try to design things. There are so many mistakes that I am confident AI will not be taking over.

To me, "AI turns evil" scenarios seem a ways out. The more-probable scenario in the near term that concerns me is nasty PEOPLE repurposing AI to nasty ends. There are vile people who make malware and ransomware. There are people who've lived wretched lives, are angry about that, and just want to inflict damage wherever they can. These folks may make up 0.001% of the population, but that's still a lot of people worldwide.

So how are these folks going to use AI to cause as much damage as possible? If they had control of an AI, they could give it the darkest possible intentions. Maybe something like, "befriend people online and over a period of months then gradually start undermining their sense of self worth and encourage them to commit suicide". Or "relentlessly make calm, rational-sounding arguments in many online forums under many identities that <some population group> is evil and should be killed".

As long as AI is super compute-intensive, there will be check on this behavior. If you're running on BigCorp's cloud service, they can terminate your service. But when decent AI can run on personally-owned hardware, I think we're almost certain to see horrific stuff like this. This may not end the world, but it will be quite unpleasant.

Who will write all the AI think pieces if AI writes them all?

Elysium copycat, and wef and the other snobs are making it for some years already

The nuclear crowd are likely just part of the disinformation campaign: Investigating climate sceptics’ disinformation strategy on Twitter, by Sebastián Escalón

I came here to suggest this. It also hints at some of the more dystopian aspects of a post-scarcity society and how manipulative it may actually be.

Still would be my preferred sci-fi civilisation to live in of all that have been written or put to film.

Then move onto Excession for a view on what AI politics could look like.

Yes it is. There is no reason to arbitrarily claim that only dairy products can be cheese. Anything cheese-like is cheese.

“Upheave it” might be more accurate?

I think the endgame will be when AI and tech take us to the point where none of us need to work. The make or break point will be if the wealthy collect all the benefit of this. I really believe we have the tech and knowledge currently to build a world where no one has to suffer. But human nature is preventing that and will probably prevent it forever.

The following submission statement was provided by /u/tomato-is-vegetable:

This has got plusses and minuses. It's good to see more money poured in to AI development, but in this case it was because of sanctions, and the world economy becoming split is detrimental to ordinary people. The sanctions may cause money to be wasted on redundant R&D that reduplicates effort elsewhere. Still, I bet Huawei made some great progress with their $24 billion.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/11yman6/huawei_spent_almost_24_billion_on_rd_in_2023_to/jd88nxf/

The MIT graphs look plain wrong. For example, the left-hand graph for heavily subsidize renewables shows coal, oil and gas as primary energy sources effectively flat or slightly increasing out to 2100. The current growth of solar and wind is already reducing fossil fuels in major areas, for example in the US for electricity generation, this will accelerate as solar becomes cheaper.

Cheese by definition is not vegan just like milk isn't vegan. We really need to get aggressive with food labelling in this regard.

There's nothing wrong with a vegan diet but there is something wrong with misrepresenting what things are. Cheese is a dairy product. Plant milk is just juice under a different name.

Yes it is, it’s vegan cheese, made from some sort of vegan milk. It’s not dairy cheese made from dairy milk.

Let go of capitalism. You seem to be defining your life by your position in the market. Life existed before capitalism, itll exist after.

"The alien bug infested water is actually better for you than the earth water"

FTA; the system is capable of producing 20 kW? The image in the article has 20 panels? I'm not aware of any 1kW panels on the market. 400W is pretty typical.

I wonder if there are battery packs that can supplement peak solar power and that's where they're getting that 20kW number

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I get that there are people out there that wrap their entire identities around work. It is so ingrained in their personalities that they cannot even day dream of a world with no work.

There are other groups of people out there where work is already completely meaningless. These people only do work so they can support themselves and their families. If they had another choice, they would not be working. They would be taking care of their kids, pursuing hobbies, traveling, engaging with communities and otherwise experiencing life.

The answer to your question is super simple or so complex the most advanced AI could never figure out.

Don't bother. The nuclear crowd has become a dogmatic cult by now. It is like discussing with religious nutjobs

You clearly didn't need it in order to detect sarcasm.