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UncommercializedKat t1_jbsy6zc wrote

I don't understand the concern raised by the article's comment here. Most technology starts out as expensive and thus only available to the wealthy. Wealthy people literally subsidize many technologies for the rest of us.

Is this a call for subsidies for everyone from day 1 of treatment availability? Is it even possible to scale these treatments up that quickly?

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whatsup5555555 t1_jbsunu0 wrote

Why should we be especially concerned about CRISPR based variants?

We should be concerned bc this technology could potentially create a new class of human. The ultra rich could alter genetics to produce offspring that are predisposed to genius IQ, immunity to disease, height and strength advantages, and a whole slew of other “desirable traits”. While the rich already receive better healthcare they are still stuck with the genes that they inherited, both good and bad.

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mediocre_mitten t1_jbsrswo wrote

Well, that was disturbing. Totally doable and most likely will happen sometime in the future, especially so since the natural CO2 scrubbers of Earth (Amazon & congo rainforest come to mind) are being deforested for $$$ gain.

Always love to quote the late great George Carlin: "The Earth is fine, the people are fucked, but the earth will be fine."

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kenkc t1_jbsnhfb wrote

If UBI kicks in, it will be because unemployment is reaching catastrophic levels. So UBI may act as a counter to the ensuing deflation.

But in a future where tech has taken away most jobs, tech will also be able to mass produce housing, food and transportation for pennies on today's dollar. Another counter to inflation.

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Aceticon t1_jbshgxn wrote

Every single inventive, artistic and even entrepreneurial person out there who is not the scion of a high middle class or richer family will be free to scratch his or her itch without fear of falling so far that he or she becomes homeless or unable to feed his or her children.

Plenty of people around with lots of want and capability to make things but either those things aren't rewarded with lots of momey by present day society or they're great at doing but not at selling.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if Universal income gives birth to a new Golden Age, assuming the present day "winners" (through the great achievment of popping-out from the right vagina) let it happen.

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Jasrek t1_jbsftza wrote

If my basic needs and wants were met, I would absolutely stop working. I'm hoping to retire in about 6-7 years and then never work again. Some people in my same situation are already talking about how they'll get another job to 'keep busy'.

I'll keep busy, but I'm not going to work. I can be plenty busy by reading, playing video games, watching Netflix, spending time with pets, and sleeping in on weekdays.

That's exactly what I would do with a guaranteed income that covers my basic needs. Now, $700 a month would not be that. That honestly would not really change my life at all, though I know it would for many people.

But it wouldn't erase my need to work in order to support myself financially, even though I have no inherent interest nor desire to work.

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IronPheasant t1_jbscd53 wrote

By this kind of logic, everyone having a job or being on social security should be responsible for MASSIVE inflation.

At some point you have to realize we've long since left the ranch when it comes to the labor theory of value. In this world it's somewhere between an energy ration and a magical imaginary number driven up by a combination of rent seeking and speculation.

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tswiftdeepcuts t1_jbs23pe wrote

Why would they keep us around, keep letting us reproduce, pay us for existing, if AI can do all the work and they literally don’t need us??

Why would they just go hide in their bunkers, release some sort of bio or chemical weapon, get the population down to a very small amount, disperse us around the globe to whatever cities they may want humans in, and then pat themselves on the back for solving climate change while they go back to living their lives of luxury with AI doing all the things they once needed us for?

What incentive do they have to give us UBI if AI can replace almost all of us? Why do people think that the super rich are going to take care of us once we’re no longer useful?

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dangflo t1_jbrxjte wrote

some people will and some people wont. If you have no skills or your profession is automated and you can't get into an active occupation then you will probably rely on ubi. For everyone else, life goes on and they continue working and being a class above those on ubi.

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gaffer57 t1_jbrvi57 wrote

In a mixed capitalist economy, there is no such thing as universal income. There is an old age pension system called social security, but that's for senior citizens who are no longer in the job market. If you are under age 66, your income level is up to you and you alone. If you ever find a universal income, you are living in a utopian fantasy land where unicorns are farting rainbows.

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