Think you already knew the answer then! I can't agree more.

I don't think so, I think the idea of work, and leisure will get more blended though. Personally, I have always wanted to go into construction, wood working; and overall working and making things with my hands. That is simply what I want to do. However, instead of needing to do this full time, I could do this as more of a hobby, where I determine the amount I want to work, instead of the $ that I need in order to survive.

Thus, it gives us the one thing money can't buy. Time. I get time to do whatever I want. I could spend this with the extra income I have to go to school for something else, hangout more with friends and family, learn another skill, and so much more. It gives us so much more freedom in our lives to have our basic needs guaranteed because we are a human.

I look forward to this day.

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You sound like every manager I’ve ever brought an idea to.

It’s reassuring that you’re an engineer, but I still disagree with your approach to innovation.

Obviously not because someone has to pay the taxes to pay for UBI.

The Athenian golden age only lasted about 18 years?

I would probably go be a line cook and try to become a chef. I realize this probably means I should be doing it now, but unfortunately I can’t afford to take a massive pay cut for 5-10 years.

This is also an example of why UBI works. It encourages people to do what they want to do, not what they need to do.

I would still work, but maybe a little less and not exhaust myself week after week just to pay the bills and never get ahead.

Again, why are you entitled to the labor of other people?

When the Athenians found unimaginable wealth as a society they created a golden age. They didn’t have to do it , they were bored enough to do it.humans will do the work they are most suited to if they have no worry for their meals.

Unrelated to your industry but I had that conversation with my director (I’m in commercial insurance) re: our positions and what it would mean when Amazon comes to take our lunch. Dude looked at me like I grew a dick on my face, and said Amazon doesn’t do insurance. End of story.

Few months ago amazon released their Health insurance. Asked him what he thought now but it’s so weird he hasn’t responded about that

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Automation is coming sooner than you think. All of those things you described could be done by a robot. They already clean your floors and mow your lawn. My car pretty much drives itself on the freeway with minimal input from me.

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Things are bad, why should we care if they get any worse?

the world we’ve been born into has already been bought up prior to our arrival and with that fact comes the circumstance that those with established ownership rights lording over our shared reality must ask all the new borns to recognize property rights that will necessarily infringe those new borns’ freedoms to otherwise enjoy whatsoever they might like to make use of.

well a willingness to recognize property rights of others who have claimed dominion over the fruits of the land comes at a price - what we might call a universal basic income, or thomas paine would have referred to as a citizen’s dividend.

such a baseline social entitlement is even more appropriate in a modern world where much of the ‘labor’ comes from energy sourced from dead organic matter ie fossil fuels

I've seen this point of history mentioned in an episode of Star Trek. 🫠

Trees… they store carbon and produce oxygen in return, which we literally need to live, just saying.

What gives certain subsoil more storage potential than other subsoil?

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Well re the second point; thats already starting to happen

No that's a real thing.

The only time I've heard the kid gloves comment is when people acknowledge their privilege be it white or male or rich or whatever identifier.

Or...you have a disability and UBI will help you live a more comfortable life. I'm cool with that too. I just don't think people with disabilities are necessarily treated with kid gloves which is very different from legit and legal protected ADA accommodations. It's not kid gloves it's just decency and what society should do for those with legitimate disabilities.

Kid gloves is if you can take it or should learn how to take it if you haven't...some people are just straight up wheelchair bound and paralyzed so any form of kid glove treatment is usually reasonable and well intentioned even if it's something as small as asking for help at the grocery store.

I knew a guy who lost his arm in Iraq...dude whooped ass at pool volleyball. Found out he also is a purple belt jujitsu but I def saw the kid glove treatment you may be speaking of.

There is so much work, UBI will instantly be transformed into a form of workfare, mandatory work.

Every person at risk for falling at home for example basically needs a 24/7 caretaker.

Curiously enough, the United States already has something like a UBI for people who can show they cannot work. Look up SSI and SSDI.