Recent comments in /f/Futurology

Murein OP t1_jbls7pc wrote

For instance, I've seen concerningly high metrics of republicans thinking the 2020 election was illegitimate and that they expect the Democrats to try to "steal" 2024 too. While being on board with the idea of taking up guns to "restore order" Then you also have the fact that a crapton of bills have gotten passed in swing states that either suppress voters or allow overturning of election results. And you have republicans on CPAC advocating for eradication of minority identities from public life while laws are being passed to do just that. And January 6th still hasn't led to any far-reaching consequences to any of the people behind it. Most of them are still in office even. Which could very well just embolden them to try to repeat it. I dunno, I just see things as democratically bleak and a high risk of either organised intimidation or mass riots cascading into guerrilla combat.

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It-s_Not_Important t1_jblrux6 wrote

I don’t know if I agree with that. I can see that it is a logical conclusion for how humans may be treated. But while I’ve never used their services in the past, I wouldn’t want the experience to be boiled down to a diagnosis and a prescription. The thought of it makes me sad, it feels dehumanizing.

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fix-all-the-things t1_jblooci wrote

Stop being an idiot. Many of those politicians and celebrities can't fly on regular planes like the rest of us. There would be too many people causing problems with them. There's no other options available to them.

You're also doing exactly what the oil companies want you to do. BP invented the personal carbon footprint after spending a lot of money researching ways to get people to stop being angry at them. The result is a way for you to look at your own carbon footprint as well as other individuals. This made it easy for you to find other targets that aren't oil companies for you to get your anger out on. You fell for it all too and now get your outrage fix whining about SUV's and personal jets which is very cathartic, then have nothing left for the actual polluters.

Oil companies invented plastic recycling too for the same reason. They knew public anger was growing against them so they hatched a very successful plan to divert that. They basically paid other countries to take our plastic and do whatever they wanted with it. We fell for that pretty hard as well and even had some politicians write laws forcing people to participate in the scam.

If you actually want to help make things better, leave individuals out of it. SUV's are not a problem. Personal jets are not a problem. By spending energy on those targets you're giving the actual polluters a huge break and making it easy for them to do nothing.

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OwenLoveJoy t1_jblohhr wrote

The United States has a way of going through cycles where everyone is predicting it’s eminent demise and then a decade later it’s clearly on top again. See 1860 VS 1870, 1935 VS 1945, 1975 VS 1985, etc. the issues you cite are real but fears of an eminent civil war are overblown. Who’s willing to fight? And for what?

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brucebrowde t1_jblg801 wrote

> Well, disagree.

Laws of physics don't care about you agreeing or not.

> Every good idea starts somewhere,

Agreed. This one is not a good idea.

> and I’d love to see this one go somewhere.

So you want to harm our planet even more? Well that's... not wise.

> Out of curiosity, are you an engineer or a manager or both?

Engineer. Out of curiosity, what does it matter?

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jjanelle99 t1_jblfhkx wrote

If you believe the checks and balances ou Forefather's put into place are still valid you need only look at Supreme Court decisions since the Conservatives became the majority . The sad part is no term limits and they could have dementia and cannot be removed . They are not elected by us , despite public objection they are still appointed these lifetime positions . Look at Kavanagh's appointment process . Did it matter that there was so much controversy ? No . He was in the right political party at the time . So the checks and balances aren't stable . As a judge it should not be about party . What about the lies to get appointed ,no we won't mess with precident . Roe vs.Wade is messing with precident !!!

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Rofel_Wodring t1_jbld7b0 wrote

I can still think of a lot of ways this can go very, very poorly. For example, we hit a computational bottleneck way earlier than space colonization allows us to expand -- with all of the resource crises that enable, especially since intelligence will now be a resource.

Regardless, the dystopia won't look anything like it did in classic sci-fi movies.

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Rofel_Wodring t1_jblcp2k wrote

Honestly? It's unclear. If you asked me five or even two years ago -- I'd vote for dystopia.

But AI is advancing extremely, extremely quickly. More quickly than I'd ever dreamed. The billionaire overlords just straight up might not have the time to deploy their infinitely loyal robot cops in a way to employ control. Because AI advanced so quickly that rank-and-file nobodies can deploy comparable resources against the overclass.

I especially claim this because I don't think the future of AI will look anything like we've seen in classical sci-fi. It'll be less like Terminator or the AI movie or even The Matrix and more like... more like a cheesy isekai anime. This is because distributed intelligence is advancing much more quickly than the unitary intelligence we have so many AI characters from.

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So I don't know where this is all going to lead. It might lead somewhere really bad. But I can guarantee you that if humanity does meet its end (and it's not in the next decade), it won't be from traditional calamities like disease or nuclear warfare or even climate change.

When Chat-GPT4 comes out next week, I think THAT will be the turning point for other people realizing that our old politics and perspectives won't serve us.

EDIT: GPT-4. Okay, so much my timeline up by a few weeks.

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