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altmorty t1_jankae9 wrote
Reply to comment by Carl_The_Sagan in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
There was a study that showed providing financial incentives can effectively cut down nimbyism. For example, providing locals with cheaper electricity.
altmorty t1_jank3bp wrote
Reply to comment by AngrySteelyDanFan in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
For saving ourselves from destruction? We probably waste more land on cattle ranching.
altmorty t1_janjxjb wrote
Reply to comment by pinkfootthegoose in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
And even waste lands like landfills unfit for other purposes. Not all land is equal, after all.
Tech_AllBodies t1_janjdi4 wrote
Reply to comment by pinkfootthegoose in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Yes, another good point, they did mention this and say that wasn't accounted for either.
pinkfootthegoose t1_janj6zk wrote
Reply to comment by AngrySteelyDanFan in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
you can put solar on already existing buildings and parking lots. it would greatly reduce that .2%.
just wish articles would integrate that into their infotainment.
pinkfootthegoose t1_janiv9u wrote
Reply to comment by Tech_AllBodies in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
also surface could include being on top of already existing structures. like homes, parking lots, warehouses etc.
RedCascadian t1_janida6 wrote
Reply to comment by Carl_The_Sagan in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Same problem with fixing our housing shortage and moving away from inefficient single-family homes.
Carl_The_Sagan t1_janh56q wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Weirdly one of the biggest roadblocks is overcoming nimbyism and local control. Look at why the potentially biggest solar far was cancelled.
Cum_on_doorknob t1_jang41a wrote
Reply to comment by AngrySteelyDanFan in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
It’s only talking about land, it’s 1/60th of the amount of land used for agriculture.
MattWey t1_janfntw wrote
Reply to comment by berlinparisexpress in The UK’s 4-day workweek trial is hailed, but questions remain by berlinparisexpress
Many startups have so may meetings it's crazy. My current workplace has a daily meeting and numerous other one's where often times only attendance is expected. But the problem is people loooove talking in circles about some shit without making a decision.
kaestiel t1_janbidl wrote
Reply to comment by pennomi in German scientists show a commercially feasible method for cyanobacteria to extract 17 rare earth elements from low-concentration sources. Currently, most of the world's supply of these elements is mined in China. by lughnasadh
"atrocities"... LMAO. How about the US's death toll of hundreds of millions murdered in the regime changes and illegal military attacks on Libya/Iraq/Syria/China/Venezuela/Vietnam/Africa/Haiti etc etc. Where's the punishment? The hegemony the US has forced on the world since WW2 is over and the neo-cons know it. No one outside of the collective West gives a Fk about the Ukraine, and will not lose their solid diplomatic and trade partnerships with Russia and China, just to end up a failure like the majority of the EU, due to the US's failed geopolitical wet dreams. People like you are the problem with the World, not the US definition of "the world' aka the worlds minority Collective West. Good luck colonialist, your self-assigned "exceptionalism" is over, take a backseat and fall inline with The Omni-polar World. Uni-polar game over. Just in case you don't understand the escalating of a proxy war against Russia and now China, is only about business/trade (except for the balloon invasion, lmao). China and Russia are now turning into the superpowers by unifying the countries the US and collective West have exploited and driven into poverty or manipulated them to remain in poverty. Remember your history, all empires collapse, add the US/EU to the list. Lol.
Oops...
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/02/opinion/ukraine-aid-united-states-nato.html
AngrySteelyDanFan t1_jana2ep wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
.2% is a lot. Especially considering what percentage of the earth is ocean. .2% is a ginormous number.
MLS_Analyst t1_jan8ur3 wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Toss in advanced geothermal and the land usage drops even more, as will the costs:
jimihughes t1_jan7vgk wrote
Reply to What are some problems on which I can develop apps using the latest technologies. I want some ideas on projects by rare_redditor0
Use AI to compute and plan the dissemination and implementation of UFO technology so that it replaces energy generation locally, while making use of 3D printing in all manufacturing, and then use that premise to calculate how to further that to create equality and abundance for all of humanity. Create an action plan for implementation.
Tech_AllBodies t1_jan6jam wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Headline is incorrect, it was 0.2% of the land surface required, not 0.2% of the total surface (i.e. including ocean).
Added context was also given, that currently 12.5% of the land surface is used for farming.
So, only ~1/60th the amount of land used for farming is needed to power 100% of the world on renewables plus storage.
On top of that, it was pointed out this is a pessimistic estimate, as it didn't account for offshore wind, or using the land of the wind/solar farm for any dual-use purpose (e.g. agrivoltaics).
EDIT: Thought I should also add that Tesla said they will be publishing a full white paper on this soon, and all the articles written right now are just based on the overview presentation, not the fine detail.
So, these articles may lack detail, speculate, and/or get things wrong.
Tech_AllBodies t1_jan63d4 wrote
Reply to comment by BernieEcclestoned in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Yes, that was included in the figures, but omitted from the headline.
240 TWh of storage estimated.
6thReplacementMonkey t1_jan3xar wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
It has always been cheaper overall to switch to renewables. The problem was and still is that what will be cheaper and better overall for everyone will not be better for the small handful of people who control the world's oil and who are incredibly wealthy because of it.
BernieEcclestoned t1_jan350f wrote
Practical-Mix-4332 t1_jan2srk wrote
Reply to comment by laleonm_cr in What are some problems on which I can develop apps using the latest technologies. I want some ideas on projects by rare_redditor0
Maybe he can build an app that finds clients to ask about their problems
AustinJG t1_jamz99g wrote
Reply to With The Help Of AI, By When Will There Be Drugs That De-Ages Humans And Keeps Us Forever Young? by AnakinRagnarsson66
Unless things get better here in the states, I'd rather just die of normal old age.
FuturologyBot t1_jamybze wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
The following submission statement was provided by /u/DisasterousGiraffe:
This economic case for solar PV and wind turbines now makes the transition from fossil fuels inevitable, and as manufacturing capacity for solar pv and renewables is built the transition will become increasingly rapid.
"If you look at the total world economy, it’s just under $US100 trillion. So if this was spread out, say over 10 years, it would be 1 per cent of the global economy."
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/11g5tfb/electric_world_that_kicks_out_fossil_fuels_will/jamu86e/
DisasterousGiraffe OP t1_jamu86e wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
This economic case for solar PV and wind turbines now makes the transition from fossil fuels inevitable, and as manufacturing capacity for solar pv and renewables is built the transition will become increasingly rapid.
"If you look at the total world economy, it’s just under $US100 trillion. So if this was spread out, say over 10 years, it would be 1 per cent of the global economy."
sdfsefhsui t1_jamtbms wrote
I'd say so yeah, it's basically dot.com 2.0 right now with decentralised technologies. You have gazillion of blockchains, but also distributed data storages like IPFS / Arweave or Secure Multi Party Computation like Nillion. Along with Zero-Knowledge proof stack, it stands to reason you could redo many of the current services (not just payments) in a way which is anonymous and not owned/controlled by a single entity, whether corporate or institutional.
I usually get my hole rinsed on reddit for stating that I am involved in blockchain technology. Yes, right now it is undoubtedly 95% scams, speculations or economically illiterate but I believe that the underlying technology does have long term viability. At worst it will push for CBDC or government programmable money to be more widespread, which at least would be an improvement on what we have now.
I do like the example of Etherisc as a simple showcase of what could be possible. It is a decentralised insurance platform, where right now you can purchase insurance against flight cancellations. Should the flight be cancelled a decentralised network Chainlinkreports to Ethereum the flight number and smart contract pays you out. Unlike traditional insurance (provided there has been security system of all systems involved) there is no way for the smart contract not to pay you out. With companies they can go bankrupt, argue against some technicality or have their own funds frozen due to clerical error.
Villad_rock t1_jamt3lk wrote
Reply to comment by Double0Peter in With The Help Of AI, By When Will There Be Drugs That De-Ages Humans And Keeps Us Forever Young? by AnakinRagnarsson66
Who says we need agi for anti aging advancements?
Carl_The_Sagan t1_jankp2d wrote
Reply to comment by altmorty in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
I love this idea. just give locals an appropriate financial benefit, plenty of stuff will get built