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FuturologyBot t1_jac7s7i wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/lughnasadh:


Submission Statement

With the caveat that this tech might be decades away, there are a lot of intriguing possibilities to consider with OI.

People have often wondered about the merger of humans & AI. If that were to happen, it sounds much easier to merge with a biological substrate designed off of something we already possess.


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Mutiu2 t1_jac7lp1 wrote

>I believe this technology could be used in destructive ways. If it were in unscrupulous hands, for instance, it could spread misinformation, political propaganda, or hateful information about people of different ethnicities and religions. As far as I know, Google and Microsoft have no plans to use the technology in this way. But there's no way of knowing the side effects of this technology.

Google and Microsoft are currently deeply embedded in social control and mass manipulation of the world into a state of war. Its difficult to see what abuses are not already occurring today.

Its one more tool available to the nefarious.

Rather than focus on the technology, we need to focus more on the awful tendencies of human culture.

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hex_ev t1_jac5vst wrote

Just my humble, non physicist opinion, but we would need more energy than the energy previously hold in all that burnt fossil fuel, released over the decades to power civilization.

There are big power sources around. Light isotopes for nuclear fusion. Heavy elements for nuclear fission. The earth heat from the underground. And of course the biggest of them all, the Sun (my favorite idea being space based solar power collection).

We could also choose a very stable way to fix all this excess carbon in the world, like diamonds or silicon carbide. we could just dump "solid-state-global-warming" into the ocean floor and forget about it

But I believe we will struggle through global warming instead of reversing it. Because there is too much inertia, no political and economical will. No real global coordination to build so much infrastructure and so much technology. We will continue to deal with the problem by not dealing with it

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lughnasadh OP t1_jac4v2y wrote

Submission Statement

With the caveat that this tech might be decades away, there are a lot of intriguing possibilities to consider with OI.

People have often wondered about the merger of humans & AI. If that were to happen, it sounds much easier to merge with a biological substrate designed off of something we already possess.

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IGC-Omega t1_jabzsh9 wrote

Everything is ripe for automation and will be automated regardless of how much people will protest.

We're living through the 4th industrial revolution. It'll make even the first industrial revolution look minor in comparison. Look up automated factories in China on YT but it won't just be factories. Programming, Graphic design stuff like that will also be automated.

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Surur t1_jabyj6q wrote

I think you think we have a lot more control over the process than we actually do. We feed in the data, provide feedback and some magic happens in the neural network, and it produces results we like.

For complex problems we don't really know how the AI comes up with results, and we see this increasingly with emergent properties in LLM.

Please look into this a bit more and you will see its not as simple as you think.

For example:

> if you got a good grasp of the math you can adjust it as you need such as prevent your ai from saying outrageous things which we have seen ChatGPT being adjusted by Microsoft when it was added to Bing for example

This is simply not true lol. They moderated the AI by giving it some baseline written instructions, which can easily be overridden by users also giving instructions. In fact when those instructions slip outside the context window the AI is basically free to do what it wants, which is why they limited the length of sessions.

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FX2032-2 t1_jabxi9b wrote

Fantastic answer! I whole heatedly agree! It's so frustrating seeing the media making people scramble for every new high tech solution, when we simply need to do what we are doing now, but better and with more care! Current agricultural practices are destroying top soil at a staggering rate, and should be sorted out first before we change tactics!

As to the role of such vertical farms, business will surely go in that direction, as it could potentially produce "food" cheaper, and the PR agencies are doing a great job of making it seem healthy. In reality though it will be the new junk food: the cheapest option for some consumers, but lacking in balanced nutrition and producing a whole new set of associated illnesses.

Plants grown in such sterile conditions will be totally devoid of any natural biological ecosystem, so consumers will lack the naturally ingested bacteria and microbes that we are beginning to realise are so important to us (for our gut biome and immune system). Similarly the plants themselves have no need to produce their own protective chemicals to prevent disease and fend off predators, so they will lack these greatly beneficial antioxidants and chemicals that we know can help prevent disease and cancer in us.

(It's a very small step away from just taking a food pill really as you may as well just consume the nutrient solutions that are used with such farms.)

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