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scrubbless t1_ja8kmov wrote
Reply to comment by XxMAGIIC13xX in So what should we do? by googoobah
When this robot uprising happens, I will make my new job - farming and defending my newly appropriated land. I guess they could make robots to solve that problem too.
UniversalMomentum t1_ja8kgrv wrote
Reply to comment by jahid232 in Limitless Possibilities – AI Technology Generates Original Proteins From Scratch by CelebrationDirect209
No, it's just like a rubik cube solving program, but fancier. It's just solving puzzle through brute force data. Realistically the rate of progress will already boom with just machine learning and human imaginatin. Real AI doesn't add as much to the equation as you think OR machine learning adds much MUCH more than you realize without sentience being even remotely important.
It's like we really just need machine problem solvers, not machines that can argue with us. Humans have more good ideas than we know what to do with, things like automating labor and getting costs down so more ideas become viable is a lot more important to progress than AI will be.
AI modeling us the most likely big bang sequence or figure out the true origin of life really isn't super important. Like those could be mysterious forever and we will be fine, it's the resource management and cost of living that humans need help with and you need more than brains to fix that.. you need LABOR.
It's not like AI is really going to be so smart that it like just starts casting spells from inside it's datacenter and re-writes the fabric of the universe. You're letting your imagination get the best of you.. which is part of the reason our need for AI is somewhat limited.
With an imagination like that all we have to do is have humans bang out ever crazy idea they have and non sentient machine learning can puzzle solve all out bullshit until it eventually makes sense.
We are the AI! The machine learning brute forces complex puzzles to produce probable answers WITHOUT self awareness. What more do you need and good luck investing all that effort into AI just to have it imagine stuff and then use machine learning to brute force the problem.
AI is when humans get so lazy they don't even want to imagine anymore. Everything else is just robotic automating and better programming. right now we call better programming machine learning, but at it's core it's just better programming that can allow for the inconsistent nature of input in the real world.. it can adapt to variations in the data.
When you do that billions of times per second cool stuff happens.. like video games or machine that solve puzzles. It's not alive, but it is amazing AT FIRST. Ater 10-20 years you will think machines that solve puzzles are old news and DUH that was always going to happen.. just like the computer and the internet are just obvious progressions of tech.
could_use_a_snack t1_ja8kc5p wrote
Reply to comment by paprikapeter in Robots could do 39% of domestic chores within 10 years, experts say by euronews-english
Funny, I was thinking that 39% of domestic jobs are already being done by robots.
I don't hand wash dishes very often. My machine does it
Same with clothes.
I don't sweep my floors, my vacuum sucks the dirt up into a nice little bag. Not to mention the actual robot vac.
I don't hang my clothes out to dry and collect them later, the machine dries them for me.
My coffee is ready before I get up in the morning, and toat is a lever press away.
I could go on. But are these "robots" depends on you definition. But you could make a pretty good case I think.
Point is, automation has been with us for a long time now and will continue to become more functional. But it will be over time, not a one machine "robot" solution
scrubbless t1_ja8k709 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in So what should we do? by googoobah
I agree with you here, there is a delicate balance in capitalist societies.
If you automate all of the workers and there are none left, then you have no-one to sell products to and companies go under. Doesn't matter how many robots you have making your products, if you have no customers.
The issues I expect to see from Automation are similar to the sort of problems we're seeing through our current iteration of capitalism - inequality. Automation and robots may speed up the process, but at some point the people that have no money and no prospects will find a way to get by, it may even involve violence.
Z3r0sama2017 t1_ja8k264 wrote
Reply to comment by FlysDinnerSnack in US 'develops' AI-powered facial recognition tech for military robot drones - The drones are to be tasked with expeditionary roles, including special operations, to "open the opportunity for real-time autonomous response by the robot." by Gari_305
Seems the NSA was listening and thought, you know what, this is a brilliant idea, lets break out the slush funds!
JoeRuckus319 t1_ja8k1is wrote
Reply to comment by MasteroChieftan in Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
It only took 2 hours and 45 minutes to go from "We should all agree on a common ethic for peace" to "we should kill everyone who disagrees."
Honestly, I expected it to come faster.
wwen42 t1_ja8joac wrote
Reply to comment by omega1212 in The Desert of the Virtual. The metaverse heralds an age in which hardly anyone still believes that tech firms can actually solve our problems by Maxwellsdemon17
No, because democracy is dumb. Literally. Over 50% of the US read at a 6th grade level and you want them to decide how to innovate? That's fucking crazy if you ask me. Which you didn't but there it is anyway. YMMV.
tonypizzaz t1_ja8jk91 wrote
Idea - a robot that uses whatever you have in your pantry to come up with a meal. Basically just a private chef. We all want private chefs it’s the only thing I covet from the rich.
AlanMorlock t1_ja8jiz8 wrote
Reply to comment by Skritch_X in US 'develops' AI-powered facial recognition tech for military robot drones - The drones are to be tasked with expeditionary roles, including special operations, to "open the opportunity for real-time autonomous response by the robot." by Gari_305
Time to bust out some German Expressionist makeup as dazzle camouflage
royalblue1982 t1_ja8jar8 wrote
Reply to Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
The truth is that we don't have enough unity among even the 'developed' world to establish such standards right now. And global capitalism doesn't really want any framework for which it would be forced to conform to.
How can the 'free world' call for certain rights when they are not even being protected in its leading members. A large section of Americans believe that racism doesn't exist, 38% of Japan's LGBT community has been harassed or assaulted at some point, Italy has a quasi-Fascist Prime Minister.
Status_Original t1_ja8iqxb wrote
As far as collapse is concerned, I recommend the podcast Breaking Down: Collapse. It's a really interesting level-headed one that explains with nuance the possibilities of there being collapse. Chances are if there are one it won't be a big singular event but an accumulation of many things drawn out over decades. They are very data driven as far as what they look at. I recommend starting from episode 1 to get eased into the topic.
dgkimpton t1_ja8icel wrote
Reply to comment by nastratin in This “Climate-Friendly” Fuel Comes With an Astronomical Cancer Risk: Almost half of products cleared so far under the new federal biofuels program are not in fact biofuels — and the EPA acknowledges that the plastic-based ones may present an “unreasonable risk” to human health or the environment. by nastratin
That's... yeah. Jesus.
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MasteroChieftan t1_ja8hp0u wrote
Reply to comment by Feerlez_Leeder101 in Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
Thought experiment - If we can accept endless brutal violence against us by the anti-social for no reason, can we not accept limited brutal violence against the anti-social, by us, for the purpose of making a more peaceful and sustainable society?
Born-Trainer-9807 t1_ja8hkw5 wrote
Reply to comment by The-Fox-Says in The ultimate solar panels are coming: perovskites with 250% more efficiency by Renu_021
I'm doubling it! But if 60% is true, then I would like to know the cost of the cell and other "pitfalls". Because 60% is a breakthrough in energy.
peadith t1_ja8heg5 wrote
Reply to comment by JamesManhattan in Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
I don't think there's so much of a chance for the kind of eradication a lot of people seem to fear, but the fear exposes the truth.
Test19s t1_ja8h5jy wrote
Reply to comment by UniversalMomentum in Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
The problem boils down to how scarce resources really are. If there’s only so much stuff we can mine without destabilizing or ruining our own homes, then robots become competition for resources rather than expansion.
NaturalNines t1_ja8gsjl wrote
Reply to comment by trippedbackwards in how could the future be for young people ? by nousomuchoesto
Except one person saying something irrational about medical science isn't an argument against scientists pushing flawed calculations that end up not coming true.
Hence why, rather than addressing the scientific flaws that produced the false predictions, he starts making up excuses about the anecdotal experience of his uncle.
It's not a scientific argument at all. It's an excuse to not have one.
JamesManhattan t1_ja8gnji wrote
Reply to comment by peadith in Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
Exactly, I just wait until A.I. reads the phrase online that "Humans are a virus" and then agrees, and finds a way to purge the planet of the virus.
chaosenhanced t1_ja8gdfh wrote
Reply to Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
Laws are only as effective as the ability to enforce them. I do not support a global government with any means to enforce even these "basic" laws.
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Sajun t1_ja8g1c5 wrote
Reply to comment by ablativeyoyo in Is VR a viable way for construction blueprints and proposals to be assembled in the future? by TIFUstorytime
Thank you!
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Reply to AI and Dog Poop by Smart_Aide_3795
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Feerlez_Leeder101 t1_ja8kndz wrote
Reply to comment by MasteroChieftan in Universal ethics/basic law for all people & global moral education: A new way to sustainability and peace? by fortin1984
One is faccism the other is communism.