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Cerulean_IsFancyBlue t1_ja8fj6r wrote

Reply to comment by Bismar7 in Their future is AI, not ours. by [deleted]

Projecting exponential growth indefinitely is a common hazard of speculating.

If you looked at movie theaters in the 1930s, or televisions in the 1950s, or gaming consoles in the early 1990s, you also have an exponential curve

If you looked at the speed of travel in the 1970s, not only would you have an exponential curve, but you’d be anticipating supersonic flight as a regular commercial service. Which simply came and went.

And last, there are times when exponential growth does not have exponential effects.

Simply pointing to an exponential curve, especially for technology, does not answer questions. It asks them.

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Cerulean_IsFancyBlue t1_ja8f1gj wrote

It did. You might want to read up on the human suffering of the industrial revolution. It would be possible to structure society in a way, where that didn’t have to happen when new technology comes along, but we still don’t have that society and here comes another tech revolution.

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Cerulean_IsFancyBlue t1_ja8emih wrote

The future belongs to the children. It is both true, and mostly meaningless trite phrase.

There may be a moment when something happens that only new children get to take advantage of. Some kind of anti-aging process that requires treatment in utero, or retention of cord blood which is something that only wealthy people are able to do at this point. At that point, there may be an infection, where all the people born too early are not able to take advantage of this piece of the future. It’s a common trope in science fiction.

I don’t see how that applies to AI. We will see the usual set of people who can’t adapt to new technology, just like my grandparents could never operate a VCR except to play a movie. We will also see that being a child with something exists does not automatically mean that you understand how to use it properly. It’s just less likely you’ll have mental blocks for TRYING it.

“The steam engine belongs to the children!” Feels similar to me. Different era, different tech, society will thrash around, but you don’t need to be a kid to get it.

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leaky_wand t1_ja8d6ei wrote

turn on Roomba

walk away

hear it fucking the underside of your couch five minutes later

put up a virtual wall, reposition it, restart it

hear it chewing up the cord to your floor lamp

pull the brush out, unwind the cord, put the brush back in, restart it

it complains the brush is dirty

pull the brush out, cut all the hair off with scissors, get the hair out of the little cap hole thing, restart it

tiny container is full, leaves balls of stuff all over

pull out the tray, dump it in the trash, reinsert it, restart, walk away

Roomba starts fucking the back of a chair until it runs out of batteries

get out actual vacuum cleaner

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Lord0fHats t1_ja8cvmm wrote

I think that's confusing the arguments.

Who on earth wants to buy $50,000 of digital 'land' to build a $300,000 digital house on? Nevermind that that isn't even remotely a new idea (hi second life) who actually wants that to be a thing besides the people proposing the idea who stand to make $350,000? Even full something as wicked cool as full-dive VR, you're still going to need an actual damn house and who on Earth is going to pay that much for 1s and 0s?

It's like someone looked at how much money fools have thrown Star Citizens way and wondered how they can get in on that action instead of saying 'this is really really stupid.' $42000 for a video game spaceship? Someone has too much money and no sense.

At least that's the sort of thing I think the article is taking a shot at. Solutions in search of a problem and solutions to problems that not only don't solve the problem but bring in whole new ones. Wild ideas about services that don't actually service anyone or anything but the insiders who are designing them and imagining a need for that service from whole cloth.

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Longjumping-Tie-7573 t1_ja8bfk4 wrote

To think we've reached the age when kids don't remember the Aibo and how it was a complete and utter commercial failure.

Kids, y'all thinking about the Future doesn't accomplish jack shit if you don't know your Past.

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draconis_cypher t1_ja8ao1l wrote

My goodness reading your post brought up a song from my past "eve of destruction by Barry McGuiere". LOL. I actually have a teenager myself and I am optimistic rather than a cynic. Someone once said bad news sells faster than good. It is easier to believe negative things than positive. Here are some things you might want to keep in mind

climate change: yeah humans did not help it and it is a thing. Plenty of scient to back it up but it is not like it has not happened before. It is natural and humans were able to weather the storm as cavemen I am sure we can handle the coming weather patterns. Humans by our very nature are resilient and we are versatile enough to see it coming and try to do something about it. It will be up to our children's generation to design and develop ways to live more in tune with nature instead of like a pack of locusts on a cornfield enhancements we are meeting our future demands by turning deserts into farmland, pulling water out of the sky vice the aqueducts and looking for new ways to apply supplychain problems around the world. Death: cancer will be cured in our lifetime (take a look at the work they are doing in Health Nannites and the cyberborg Cell, amazing). As a veteran we now know that if people get to a medic in the first few minutes their chances of staying alive go up dramatically. We are always on the Eve of destruction, people are people we fight, love and hate in equal measures but Dont let the fear guide you but rather look at it from what is possible not with certainty. Speaking as someone who has been in combat probably more times than I can count and seeing Death in all its myriad forms I can still come out optimistic for the next generation. Fear of tomorrow never did anyone any good. If we allowed fear of collapse we would have never left the caves.

Possible Collapse: Wars happen. Myself I am a veteran and there was not one time in the last 20 years that I did not go down range. There is not much we can do about this but look at it like the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. We had a pandemic (COVID), humans responded to meet the threat, and though everything is not all the way back to normal we learned and we got better so the next time it happens we will be more equipped to handle it. Famine we live in a society where everything is at our fingertips and with the new scientific enhancements we are meeting our future demands by turning deserts into farmland, pulling water out of the sky vice the aqueducts, and looking for new ways to apply supply-chain problems around the world. Death: cancer will be cured in our lifetime (take a look at the work they are doing in Health Nannites and the cyber borg Cell, amazing). As a veteran, we now know that if people get to a medic in the first few minutes their chances of staying alive go up dramatically. We are always on the Eve of destruction, people are people we fight, love and hate in equal measures but Dont let fear guide you but rather look at it from what is possible not with certainty. Speaking as someone who has been in combat probably more times than I can count and seeing Death in all its myriad forms I can still come out optimistic for the next generation. Fear of tomorrow never did anyone any good. If we allowed fear of collapse we would have never left the caves.

Economy: it goes up and down that is the way it works. Are things as cheap as they once were nope but I make way more money than my father he made more money than his father. We help out kids and train them for a brighter future focusing them on skills that they will. need to survive and thrive which in turn will help with the economy. Things that will shape our future in the next 10 years Cold Fusion will become more available and with easier access to energy worldwide that will help shape greener living and the economy as we will spend less on Fossil fuels. Fusion will also allow us to break the speed to mars and moon exploration and colonization which they are already working on so now the stars will become in reach which opens up more opportunities for the world economy.

AI: You can look at AI as good and bad but take a look for yourself. I personally have incorporated ChatGPT into my daily life and remember it is a learning tool first, Skynet it is not. AI will happen people tend to focus on the negative results of AI but thinking ahead some of what they are using it for is robotic Hospice workers to help out in homes for our elderly (look at Japan), AI that assists our doctors to break out of the what is known and look at our illnesses from more than limited single doctor experience which will increase the benefits of our health, Automate daily tasks and help us save money (look at the example of chatGPT and traffic court). AI is here and it is not going anywhere but we can leverage it for good or bad just how we look at it. In our generation computers were calculators and now everyone has a smart phone that runs our life. Our children grew up learning on Youtube where we had school books. Our children are learning faster than we ever could which makes them able to be more resilient and able to deal with the new challenges in this new age of Technology

My old Ranger instructor once told me "If you cant change it, don't bitch about it. The only thing you can change is how you handle it, good, bad or ugly but it never helped anyone coming from a place of fear but always come at a problem from a place of strength and confidence." My personal motto is "there are no problems only solutions waiting to be found." I have instilled that in my daughter from a early age and now she is looking at the future in a optimistic way. So all this is me trying to tell you that our children have a world of exploration in front of them where technology will be there hand and hand with them. In their life time cancer will be a thing of the past, we will reach the stars and we will better able to live in tune with our environment vice against it.

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twim19 t1_ja89rbl wrote

The world has been ending and getting worse and worse since the dawn of humans and their ability to make such pronouncements. We certainly have our problems, but if there is one thing humanity has going for it is that it is adaptable and especially good at using its oversized brain to adapt to new situations.

And if you need something else, jus think about how wonderful it is to be able to drink water and not have to worry if it has been contaminated by human waste from upstream.

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jagoble t1_ja89lrd wrote

"538 children were shot and killed by unidentified assailants all within 10 minutes of each other during last night's Halloween festivities. All were dressed like Vladimir Putin. Authorities have no leads at this time."

  • Future headline, probably
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Plexiglasssmartphone t1_ja89779 wrote

This can totally be done by one’s own discipline and will to observe one self and heal their traumas….

Edit: Everyone has problems and distortions, it’s up to one’s own self to take it upon themselves to do the inner work.

Edit 2: it is easy to begin, hard to continue, harder to finish. The journey inwards is not an easy one but it is the most rewarding in every way imaginable.

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Bewaretheicespiders t1_ja8919d wrote

I did consulting work for the CSA. They bemoan (in private) the government's lack of space ambitions just as I do. They were hoping to get a budget boost when the government switched from the CPC to the LPC and especially with an astronaut as minister of transport, but they got nothing. Canada's missing the boat on developping an actual space industry and with what happened to Bombardier the country is well on its way to lose its aerospace industry as whole. That you cannot discuss that like an adult and resort to petty personal attacks, that is dumb.

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