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UniversalMomentum t1_ja7tq4t wrote
Reply to comment by Shadowkiller00 in Could AI appreciate humans? by sugaarnspiceee
We don't know how sentience works really. We don't know what animals are thinking. We can barely tell what humans are thinking most of the time!
AI is a process of digital evolution, not hand crafting all the code, so you kind of get what you get. You COULD get an AI that appreciates art but sucks at communication. You could get an AI that just wants to stare at the wall and lick doorknobs. You could get an AI that always invents a new way to get stuck in loops.
It's kind of like throwing a bunch of chemicals into a soup to make life, don't expect to know what you will get once we really get to the point of sentience. Right now I think we are no where near that point and the progress of AI might slow down so much it's not a big deal. We may make great progress in the first 90% and find real sentience is vastly more complex than we thought, we really have no idea at this point. We certainly don't even understand how out own brain produce sentience or even how to define it well, so LOTS of unknowns there.
zachster77 t1_ja7tngi wrote
Reply to comment by omega1212 in The Desert of the Virtual. The metaverse heralds an age in which hardly anyone still believes that tech firms can actually solve our problems by Maxwellsdemon17
That’s a good point. I should put innovators in quotes throughout. Innovation is like the idea of progress. Progress towards what? What end? At what cost?
[deleted] OP t1_ja7tf3q wrote
Reply to comment by khamelean in Welcome to the future of technology! by [deleted]
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UniversalMomentum t1_ja7t8m1 wrote
Reply to comment by Lirdon in Could AI appreciate humans? by sugaarnspiceee
If we program human emotions into a big dataset and keep crunching the algorithums the result should be something that mimics humans emotions so well you can't tell the difference.
We can argue if it really FEELS or not, but from our perspective it should be able to easily mimic all human behavior convincingly. Humans are not THAT complex, rather we tend to all act very similar, so we won't be that hard to mimic.
TPAMeta t1_ja7t8a8 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Welcome to the future of technology! by [deleted]
We are for real, we have a legitimate project going on. Everyone is entitled to an opinion we respect that. Of course we only have a few posts. It's a new account, and our project just launched.
Lirdon t1_ja7t4hc wrote
Reply to comment by UniversalMomentum in Could AI appreciate humans? by sugaarnspiceee
Exactly my point, we are likely not be able to recognize the consciousness, it would be different than anything we understand.
UniversalMomentum t1_ja7t1ov wrote
Reply to comment by superjudgebunny in Could AI appreciate humans? by sugaarnspiceee
The same way you do everything with machine learning. You provide it with a ridiculously large dataset to build a suitable algorithm from. You don't have to understand every aspect of something because your using evolution, not hand crafting every piece of code. It's just machine learning digital evolution instead of good old biological evolution.
FuturologyBot t1_ja7syyv wrote
Reply to Does gene editing hold the key to improving mental health? | Research suggests traumatic childhood experiences embed themselves in our brains and put us at risk of mental illness, but epigenetic editing may offer us hope of removing them. by lughnasadh
The following submission statement was provided by /u/lughnasadh:
Submission Statement.
Using CRISPR tech to influence epigenetics could lead to some fascinating possibilities. We think of CRISPR influencing the latter part of the "Nurture Vs. Nature" pairing that defines us. What if it could reprogram some of the first part too?
However not all scientists are convinced that this technique may deliver much.
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/11dc27b/does_gene_editing_hold_the_key_to_improving/ja7popr/
UniversalMomentum t1_ja7suyc wrote
Reply to comment by Lirdon in Could AI appreciate humans? by sugaarnspiceee
AI will be evolved through machine learning cycles too, not just hand made, it will have components and features that were not designed for at all. I don't think we will have much certainly about what we will be creating at first and then we will still lock short and long term control over the outcome of this artificial evolution.
More than we are hand crafting digital life, we are evolving digital life, which means a lot of it is still kind of out of our direct control and understanding.
canadianpastafarian t1_ja7stxd wrote
Reply to comment by Nebula_Zero in Their future is AI, not ours. by [deleted]
What do robot arms and robot dogs have to do with AI?
canadianpastafarian t1_ja7spps wrote
Reply to comment by Psychomadeye in Their future is AI, not ours. by [deleted]
That was a word salad if I've every read one.
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UniversalMomentum t1_ja7smoh wrote
Reply to Could AI appreciate humans? by sugaarnspiceee
If we make enough AI's then at least one will appreciate humans. One question is how many AI's will we actually make. I think most of you see AI as mass proliferating. I don't. I think real AI will be far and few between and not even as useful as just plain old machine learning and robots capable of doing the physical part.
It's really the automation of labor we need, not a brilliant AI to tell us how dumb we are. Knowing things is great, but that doesn't get the actual labor done and humans are mostly not in a position of low innovation. If anything our innovation might be killing us. It's really endless cheap labor we need much more than self aware AI.
So one question is how many profitable uses will many competing AI's really have. As a consumer I'm MUCH more interested in like Rosie The robot level tech with no need for AI. A don't mind fake AI like Google, Siri and ChatGPT does to interact with humans more fluidly, but if AI is a live we can't actually put it into lots of devices.
One scenarios that might be common with AI is that you develop it, it shows some promise and then it devolved into insanity.
There is too much assumption here that AI will be super beneficial soon just because we are making some progress. Often it's the last 10% of any project that takes 90% of the work and time and we aren't 90% of the way to AI yet I'd say.
That all being said AI is artificially evolved. This artificial evolution process will create ALL KIND of different AI types and personalities and we will mostly not know what we are creating before hand because we are using digital evolution and not custom making every part of the AI.
[deleted] OP t1_ja7sign wrote
Reply to Welcome to the future of technology! by [deleted]
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omega1212 t1_ja7rnm7 wrote
Reply to comment by zachster77 in The Desert of the Virtual. The metaverse heralds an age in which hardly anyone still believes that tech firms can actually solve our problems by Maxwellsdemon17
As a correction money does not mostly flow to innovators but to their investors and the rest of the capital class. They rarely see more than a few percent of the value of what they produce
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Libro_Artis t1_ja7rjy1 wrote
Reply to So what should we do? by googoobah
The Singularity is myth. A buzzword to sell books and attract investors
MLS_Analyst t1_ja7qdx7 wrote
Reply to comment by paulfromatlanta in Iron Shortage Threatens Southern Ocean's Ecosystem and Climate by Muted_Drop2791
Was already tried in the North Pacific off of Canada and seemed to go well, though obviously we need more info than just this video:
russianpotato t1_ja7q23f wrote
Reply to comment by Rondaru in Opinion: Mining on the moon is no longer a loony idea, and Canada can capitalize on it by Gari_305
You're thinkin of the water in the actual moon dust. I was referencing the recently found actual water ice found at the poles. You didn't follow any of that and the proposed Chinese and US moonbase because of it?
Sarcosmonaut t1_ja7pqeb wrote
Reply to comment by khamelean in Welcome to the future of technology! by [deleted]
Not sure who is more annoying. AI Doomers or Blockchain Preachers
lughnasadh OP t1_ja7popr wrote
Reply to Does gene editing hold the key to improving mental health? | Research suggests traumatic childhood experiences embed themselves in our brains and put us at risk of mental illness, but epigenetic editing may offer us hope of removing them. by lughnasadh
Submission Statement.
Using CRISPR tech to influence epigenetics could lead to some fascinating possibilities. We think of CRISPR influencing the latter part of the "Nurture Vs. Nature" pairing that defines us. What if it could reprogram some of the first part too?
However not all scientists are convinced that this technique may deliver much.
damnedspot t1_ja7p9u4 wrote
Reply to Opinion: Mining on the moon is no longer a loony idea, and Canada can capitalize on it by Gari_305
Have there been any efforts / considerations to only mine the far side of the moon? It would be nice (and probably unrealistic) to make the facing side an unspoiled International Park.
paprikapeter t1_ja7p7rs wrote
That won't happen. Automated Vacuum cleaners are still pritty bad and far away from replacing normal vacuum cleaners, despite beeing in the market for 10years or so. I havent seen any device loading and unloading my dishwasher or clean up my rooms so the automated vacuum cleaner can fo his magic. Also laundry is war away from full automation.
hiko7819 t1_ja7tvvg wrote
Reply to US 'develops' AI-powered facial recognition tech for military robot drones - The drones are to be tasked with expeditionary roles, including special operations, to "open the opportunity for real-time autonomous response by the robot." by Gari_305
Didn’t Captain America the Winter Solider answer how we felt about facial recognition software with lethal force flying in the sky? The future of the world is so bleak. Would love to be back in the ignorance of pre-9/11 world.