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Tomycj t1_ja56h9j wrote

Reply to comment by Northstar1989 in AI is accelerating the loss of individuality in the same way that mass production and consumerism replaced craftsmanship and originality in the 20th century. But perhaps there’s a silver lining. by SpinCharm

Freedom of choice doesn't mean what you think it means. It all comes down to this: you are not entitled to other people's work. Capitalism is in big part the recognition of this hard to swallow but true and ethical principle, that enables peaceful social cooperation.

It's ironic that these anti-capitalist ideas are often rooted in marxism, yet they are contradicting it, because marxism predicted that capitalism would collapse due to decreasing profits, but people are complaining about their increase.

>AI and Capitalism are NOT compatible

you could make the same argument for any form of technological progress. People has done so, and will continue doing so.

edit: the user argued later that his point is true because the capitalist doesn't do any work. That is basically economics terraplanism. No serious economist denies the fact the capitalist is just another link in the chain, who provides useful contributions in the production process. They, among other things, allow the employee to not have to worry about a series of decisions, risks, and responsibilities.

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comradejiang t1_ja56e7w wrote

Reply to how could the future be for young people ? by nousomuchoesto

Modern popular music is already cookie cutter as fuck. Putting an AI in control of writing music would be no different than how pop singers sing songs written by other people already.

More accessibility in creating art is not a bad thing, sorry to say.

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Gari_305 OP t1_ja55st8 wrote

Reply to US 'develops' AI-powered facial recognition tech for military robot drones - The drones are to be tasked with expeditionary roles, including special operations, to "open the opportunity for real-time autonomous response by the robot." by Gari_305

From the article

>The United States Air Force has reportedly developed AI-powered facial recognition techechnolgy (FTR) for autonomous drones.
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>The drones will be used by special operations personnel for missions overseas and for gathering intelligence and other operations, according to a contract between the Department of Defense (DoD) and Seattle-based company RealNetworks.
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>"The U.S. Air Force has completed a project to develop face recognition software for autonomous drones, sparking concerns that individuals could be targeted and killed," New Scientist reported on Wednesday.

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Tomycj t1_ja555z7 wrote

Reply to AI is accelerating the loss of individuality in the same way that mass production and consumerism replaced craftsmanship and originality in the 20th century. But perhaps there’s a silver lining. by SpinCharm

Did mass production really replace craftmanship? Are nowadays less crafters and artisans in the world?

>Most of us live in fairly repetitive, predictable and derivative ways

Wasn't this also true in the past? What was original about laboring the fields? I imagine nowadays we have more diverse lifes in average, than the average man in the past.

>where it becomes increasingly difficult to find original thought or expression of ideas.

is it? Even if you deliberately go look for them in places like libraries and such? Maybe social media simply isn't meant for that.

>We are, statistically speaking, mostly repetition

That's an interesting debate. Yours is an uncommon position in this sub, because instead of arguing that AI art is unoriginal, you seem to be arguing that humans themselves are as unoriginal as AI. I think people does more than copy-pasting. I think they are able to come up with new ideas by looking at old ones, otherwise society wouldn't have evolved. AIs might be less capable of truly original ideas, but I think they eventually will, and that they do not need to reach that point in order to be extremely useful and produce beautiful images or stories, be them art or not.

>While today we can appreciate and value the effort and creativity of a music artist, very soon more and more music will be synthesized, and in doing so we will value it less

If you think people will actually give less value to machine generated stuff, wouldn't that maintain or even increase a demand for human-made stuff, therefore keeping that activity safe? Yeah, I think that's what you're saying later.

>There will be fewer human artists and craftsmen if there are fewer ways to earn a living

It might be harder to make a living out of art, but that doesn't necessarily mean artists will become more scarse. Maybe more will be able to do it as a hobbie.

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o_o_o_f t1_ja54xdp wrote

Reply to comment by Bismar7 in Their future is AI, not ours. by [deleted]

Out of curiosity, where are you getting that timetable? I don’t have any reason to disbelieve it aside from that I haven’t seen it talked about before. And what does “human adult level” mean?

From what I’ve heard about AI, it seems like we are still a ways off from true general intelligence, and even farther from the sort of “comprehension” that is sometimes expected from people’s idea of what AI would be. I’m a software engineer, and we are only just starting to talk about AI at my company - I want to be clear that I do not know much about where the state of AI is truly at.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_ja53rrt wrote

Reply to comment by XxMAGIIC13xX in So what should we do? by googoobah

From this point? No, give it a few years, yes.

Here is the deal, AI is growing exponentially in cognitive and robitic capabilities. But you and I are not.

Your body and brain does not improve, quite the opposite. Imagine you must learn something completly new and master it well for a good sallary, that takes like 3-5 years. AI will catch up faster, learns faster than you.

AI will catch up to any job a human does, white collar or blue collar. In fact, white collar will probanly go down first in bigger numbers.

This might take decades, but I think it starts within years.

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quantumoutcast t1_ja53oms wrote

Reply to So what should we do? by googoobah

Um, if there's a singularity within the decade, there won't be any jobs or any other type of physical matter, so really no need to plan for it. Or is there some new internet definition of "singularity" that I haven't heard about yet?

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BernieDharma t1_ja528oo wrote

Reply to how could the future be for young people ? by nousomuchoesto

I'm Gen X and have been hearing about the doom and gloom, "the sky is falling", no future, etc since I was a teen as well. Lived most of my life in fear believing it all. A host of post apocalyptic films helped reinforce it.

Back then, it was a forgone conclusion that the world was going to end with WWIII and nuclear Armageddon. Inflation was high, and I remember our teachers telling us how much more basic items would cost in the future. Computers were going to take our jobs (this was before PCs). Pollution was out of control. The older generation said we were a bunch of lazy, entitled, spoiled brats and didn't have what it takes. There didn't seem to be much of a future for us. Same story, different era.

Don't let it overwhelm you. Most of it is amplified by the media to sell advertising. Fear sells. Public despair and hand wringing draws viewership. People want to feel like they are "in the know", and cling to the doom and gloom predictions shouting "wake up sheeple"!

It's good to be aware of what's going on, but don't fall into the despair cycle. Lots of people are working on solving the major issues. I think we are all frustrated that thing could change except for a handful of politicians and their corporate sponsors who seem to block all attempts to change it. That battle has been going on as long as I've been alive.

My advice for you is to look for the possibilities and the opportunities. If I could go back to being your age at the dawn of the PC revolution, start of the internet, knowing the Soviet Union was going to collapse, the sky wasn't falling, etc., I would have had a very different life. But I couldn't see through the "clouds of doom."

Just work on yourself and your future, and find a way to make your little corner of the world a little brighter, a little more cheerful. Take care of the environment and help the people around you. Vote for the people who want to create the future you want to live in. Volunteer in your community. Seek out other people like yourself you are working for a change.

Stay positive, and find what Albert Camus called your "invincible summer."

“In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer.And
that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world
pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something
better, pushing right back.” - Albert Camus

Hope this was helpful.

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