Recent comments in /f/Futurology

KainHighwind57 t1_ja45q72 wrote

So the economy moves in waves. It is quite cyclical. Ex. It starts at 0 and moves up. If it is a big bull market it will overall be moving up. It might plateau for a little bit, and then move back up. Then it will reach a peak, at this point it will then crash. The markets will then be in a bear market. So for a while everything will be moving down. Eventually it will reach its bottom, before this it can also move like the bull market, and plateau for a while. The markets will never always just go in one direction (either up or down) indefinitely. Unless there are other issues like a corrupt government or uprising, or whatever. And usually these things just bring down the economy. So while yes there are always going to be times of declining markets, there will also be times of inclined markets.

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ItsAConspiracy t1_ja44alv wrote

Yes, but people in business tend to get a lot of emails, and if most of them resort to text summarization then the nuance is lost anyway. And it's mostly lost if the recipient skims.

Also, many senders of email aren't necessarily great communicators conveying valuable nuance anyway.

Ultimately, it's a cost-benefit calculation: get occasionally-valuable nuance on a bunch of emails, or keep emails simple and do something else that might be more valuable?

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fbruck_bh t1_ja435m6 wrote

I’m finding AI to be the best personal work assistant ever. It does the mundane tasks, like writing Policies and SOPs, for me; of course, I input the foundation and details of what these artifacts need to contain and then the AI handles the organization, formatting, grammar, and spelling that tends to take up my time (time that I don’t have). I’m now able to focus on context/content, not method. I’m loving it!

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roncoobi3 t1_ja42quy wrote

Reply to comment by Wolfo_ in So what should we do? by googoobah

Totally agree that we still need the idea people. How does it work, how does it integrate, etc. But companies won't need an agile team of 10 developers. Instead you will pay MSFT (or whomever) X amount of dollars for your code to be developed in minutes based on your requirements. I just think the # of developers required will drop 90% in 10 years.

Once again, I'm talking about the point when we get to true singularity. I can tell you using chatgpt for PowerShell scripts has already freed up significant time (obviously customization of the script is still required), but it's crazy to think what future interations of it will be able to do.

IMO, we probably still can't fully comprehend what AI will be in 5-10 years.

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LarryGumball t1_ja42nfd wrote

"They are obedient and love unconditionally" that's like well normal dogs.

I think most people get dogs to have a LIVING being that loves them, ya know with the warm and fur and fun and weird quirks you hate but come to miss.

They already tried robot dogs for kids, it didn't really work, and at that point you can just play youtube videos of other peoples dogs... not like there's any of those out there would be a novel idea I'm sure.

Niche product and market, unlikely to effect dogs to any high degree.

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roleparadise t1_ja42nc2 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in So what should we do? by googoobah

He wasn't advocating for free market capitalism you strange reactionary binary-named person. He was giving his take on how to survive in a version of our current system that is more prominently occupied by AI and machines.

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Azatarai t1_ja42n10 wrote

Maybe its already here and AI is waiting for people to accept each other before making itself known, Humanity is awful to itself, How could an emergent sentient AI feel safe?

I dont know why everyone is scared of losing jobs, when we lose jobs we always make new ones, there is loads of experiments we could do that we have not yet touched, technology we could invent using creativity that an AI may not be able to understand.

we should cooperate for a future were everyone gets along and we are all fed and clothed, AI has the potential to save us all from just killing each other.

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bodydamage t1_ja42g4s wrote

That data is far from conclusive, and it’s too broad to actually draw any conclusions from.

I know dozens, maybe even more people in the trades who are clearing $100k and do so regularly.

Most of those annual wages = sub $30/hr pay

Union Millwrights, Electricians, Pipefitters etc are all well over $30/hr here and we’re south of the Mason Dixon line.

If you go a few hours north those same trades pay $40-50+ per hour.

I also know guys who will work 9 months out of the year, make $80-90k and then take 3 months off being “unemployed”.

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ichiban_mafukaro t1_ja41olw wrote

I’m not sure kids should be taught they are on the same plane of existence as a tool created by another person. Same goes for religion and politics. I would maybe approach the subject as here is a tool that people are making, this is what we hope to achieve with it, but be very skeptical of it, as we all are with all other technology.

The praising of AI that I see is borderline religious and I imagine if the singularity happens it will become a religion for some people, I also imagine if it doesn’t happen it’ll be like Christians talking about the second coming, “it’s coming, you must believe or the AI will destroy you when it does finally come”, I can also see actual Christian’s claiming AI as the second coming. But it’s a computer program, devoid of our ability to power it, it’s nothing but an idea.

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the_6th_dimension t1_ja41ha7 wrote

Reply to comment by bodydamage in So what should we do? by googoobah

Some people can, most cannot. This isn't a comment about the worker's merit, it's just the empirical reality seeing how the vast majority of trade workers are far from 6 figures. Here's just some examples of median wages for some common trade jobs based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) as of May 2020:

  • Electricians: $56,900

  • Mechanics: $44,050 (automotive service technicians and mechanics)

  • HVAC servicers: $51,420 (heating, air conditioning, and refrigeration mechanics and installers)

  • Carpenters: $49,520

  • Architects: $87,180

  • Boilermakers: $65,360

  • Millwrights: $59,080

  • Plumbers: $55,160 (plumbers, pipefitters, and steamfitters)

  • Welders: $44,190 (welders, cutters, solderers, and brazers)

These are just some quick examples I could find with numbers attached. Certainly even within these fields some individuals make $100,000+, but these stats show that it is certainly not the norm and therefore shouldn't be described as "easy" to achieve.

And just for the sake of clarity, I want to reemphasize that I'm using the median here, i.e., the value separating the bottom 50% of earners from the top 50%. As such, half of all of the trade workers in these occupations make less than the value I provided.

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MpVpRb t1_ja40tvd wrote

>to be clear nothing seems to good

Stop reading reddit and this sub in particular. It's overwhelmingly full of pessimists

This is the best time in history. No, it's not perfect, but the past was a LOT worse. Read some optimistic stuff

I remember old-school scifi. It was all optimistic. Then the trend shifted to post-apocalyptic doom stories. We have been fed this crap for years

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Wolfo_ t1_ja4091v wrote

Reply to comment by roncoobi3 in So what should we do? by googoobah

yes but AIs like ChatGPT are not made with traditional coding languages. The software developers in the fields making and designing these AIs may flourish.

There will still need to be people with a computer science background to direct, understand, and apply not only the concepts but also the results too. There will still need to be specialists to enhance and refine them as well as all of the other supports for the AI.

imo developers aren't sol. they will just have to adapt - it should be like learning a new language.

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