It reminds me of this scene from Futurama:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQqlhqAUuQ

Ignoring the obvious anti-gay propagamda parallels (which was probably the purpose of the scene to begin with), there's something to be said about disconnect with other human beings and human experiences if the artificial is preferable - or at least 'good enough'.

We see this to some extent with shut-ins, like the Japanese hikikomri:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

That depends what part of construction you're talking about. Excavators gets 3D-models imported to the onboard computers and they restructure the ground according to it.

Electricians is a different story.

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I agree that things are not valuable just because they are made by human hands. That woman using AI to design a dress results in a dress that was made by AI from a human's ideas. AI in this example is a tool, like the chisel that carves the marble statue.

But a dress made entirely by AI with no guidance by a person? To me, these lose value quickly regardless of the uniqueness of the product. I subscribe to several r/architecture r/architecturePorn etc. subreddits in here and there are frequently posts of images of buildings created by AI. They are fantastic! Original, innovative, breakthrough concepts. But after the first dozen of these the wow factor dims; after the first 100 of these they lose their lustre completely.

Why? Because for me at least, they are no longer original creations of someone's imagination. They become an endless line of computer-generated imagery that holds no emotional connection or value.

Perhaps I bore easily or I have a low tolerance for repetition. I felt the same way about those tik tok videos that morph a plain face into a fabulous one. After a year of seeing them, they are meaningless. Valueless. Even though each one is a product of a person's ideas, they become all the same at a higher, perhaps meta, level. "Oh, there's software that can make a person look like anything. Oh look - here's the thousandth person using software to change their features.". Yawn.

I suspect when the first person wears an AI-generated outfit, it will be noticed and probably raved about. But when the 1000th person does it, will it generate the same enthusiasm, or will most people switch off? And at a broader level, when the millionth person uses AI to create something, or the billionth, will anyone take notice? Will anyone care? I suspect not, because there will be little value in something that is mass produced for the individual, in the same way that there's little value in something mass produced for the masses today.

Yeah they had one chance to set the narrative and make a good impression and they kind of blew it. It's gonna take some work to reset the public opinion.

I think we're still very far off. If you are an avid fan of Japanese anime, manga, and indie games like me, you know that the translations we have, shoddy and unprecise as they are (despite help from machine translations), represent only the tip of the iceberg. There is a mountain of content that remains untranslated, and probably will never be translated because the cultural gap and nuances are too hard to explain to a Western audience. Also even the small fraction of works that DO have translations, are often full of inaccuracies or heavy-handed artistic license. Machines can already translate individual tokens pretty well, but I find it doubtful that there will be any other way to overcome the nuance barrier in the upcoming decades, unless you do it the hard way, i.e. study the language yourself and participate in its culture.

Agreed, but it was an enormously costly mistake on their part. If I was running the company I would have never gone along with that!

imho Google translator has long ago solved the need to learn the language for basic communication. But language is a lot more than understanding menu at an eatery. Language is the medium that carries the culture and nationality, without understanding the language, your understanding of the culture will be very superficial. A translator app, no matter how good, will not suffice to live in a foreign country. Visiting for work or tourism, that's no problem, there is no need to speak the language for that, but if you move somewhere, you need to learn the local language.

Learning of language is much entwined with learning and understanding the culture. One feeds the other and not bothering to learn a language oneself would make one a very sterile companion to the native speakers of that language.

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Fair points and yeah I suppose for a company the size of Meta there's no excuse to not have adjustable graphics. Idk why that thought didn't cross my mind. I'm cautiously optimistic about the future of VR but I agree that Meta's implementation of it thus far is super bland. If it wasn't for the stuff they've showed off in the pipeline I really wouldn't have much good to say about the work they're doing. Not sure why they thought the current showcase was a good product to release or market with.

>As always, it will come down to individuals to choose for themselves - or not.

That's a laugh.

Do you think people actually have CHOICES in today's society?

The crushing competitive pressures of Neoliberal Capitalism have forced firms to cut every possible expense, and pay their workers as little as possible, all in order to maximize profits (which, even more sickeningly, is actually encoded into law for publicly-traded corporations in the US).

Why is all this relevant to this discussion? Let's see...

First, the pressures on firms will force companies to do away with human-created products and services wherever AI-provided ones can possibly substitute for them.

Second, the crushing pressure of ever-falling wages relative to the Cost of Living (while wages are technically going up, until very recently with the post-Covid labor shortages they weren't outpacing the Cost of Living- and thus real wages were actually falling in many countries...) will force most people to buy AI-msde goods and services just to have a prayer of making ends meet. This isn't a choice- not unless you consider it a real "choice" between spiraling debt leading to homelessness, and making bills...

Third and finally, the growing power of the rich relative to everyone else, accelerated by AI putting an even greater premium on Capital (by improving returns), will enable them to do even more to corrupt politicians and push through legal changes accentuating their wealth and power: putting the gas on the steady transformation of the US, Japan, and Western Europe into a bunch of Oligarchies where most people have ZERO say in the political process (in the US, at least, this is already the case). This will lead to problems like EVEN MORE consolidation of housing markets under an increasingly-tiny number of private equity companies, putting further economic pressures on ordinary people. Again, forcing people to buy AI products if they don't want to end up homeless.

I've said this before, will say it again: AI and Capitalism are NOT compatible. If we stick with Capitalism, emerging AI technologies like this will eventually completely ruin the Working Class within 100 years or so...

There's also the unknown subset of viewers that would like to just get lost inside the alternate realities of fictional tv, disconnecting from contact with people for as long as possible. If that experience was generated and controlled by AI with no outside involvement, it could be quite addictive to some.

All technology can be used harmfully but that is a shallow application, there's so much more interesting things out can be used for.

For example rockets led to landing on the moon, atomic research led to medical advances

Yeah doesn't this show that it doesn't know anything when it missed the answer right under its nose (yay for idioms!)

Nah, I want the individualized shows. Gimme those and I'll never need a streaming service again.

This is what Hololens are used for atm, and I know Lenovo has a similar product for entreprise markets. Meta also advertised for this use case on their new Metaverse thingy, but it's still not widespread ('look at how many construction companies struggle with CAD) it's gonna take a while to become a normal usecase

I 'm having a hard time deciding if this is categorized under Millennials are ruining X or The Atuomatic Buggy Whip will ruin old fashioned buggywhips. Shit changes and the changes brought by AI aren't yet beginning. We're just using them as toys right now. Also Craftsmanship and Originality in the 20th century was dogshit poor. Most everyone just bought one of two products at a store to fix problems and if something broke thye re-created it with the most basic parts possible. Nobody was designing things in their home 3D printer. Nobody was documenting their lives and sharing it with their fanbase. Only Rock Bands had home recording studios. No Artisanal Foods. No Artistry clothing. Absolute dead-reckoning minimal importing of foreign cultural art or craft.

I’m married to a Japanese woman, can’t imagine daily conversations dependent upon a piece of technology. Nuance, word choice, tone, volume, intonation etc and we haven’t even touched on visual cues. Until your language app is a subconscious implant, I don’t see technology being anything more than an aid.

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yeah, I was considering a second tv for a workout space and measured my model, it was an odd size for Samsung - turns out my tv’s almost 10 years old. Still looks great!

You won't have full peripheral vision, which is what is needed for this to take off.

One of the abilities that AI could do is help ideas come to life quicker from all of us, maybe the disintermidiatory effect will be that any idea can be brought to life from any person and that the idea of craftsmanship moves away from the doing into thinking, and the true skill will be in describing what we want.

Unlike mass production AI and home production of high quality goods will be individualistic just like any cottage industry of the past. If a woman has an AI design an outrageous outfit for some fashion event and manufactured for her by some fancy new machine is it not representative of that persons desires should they be seen wearing it at the oscars in the year 3000? Things are not valuable just because they are made by human hands. You are confusing the limited, dull mass production of times gone past with the endless possibilities of the future. Let’s not forget how we’ll likely have a lot more time on our hands to be creative with the tools that AI can provide, whilst not having to work a boring, meaningless job to put food on the table.

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