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Pickled_Doodoo t1_ja1142u wrote
Reply to comment by hydraofwar in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
Roko's basilisk comes to mind
Hardcorish t1_ja10arr wrote
Reply to comment by H0sh1z0r4 in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
The only thing scarier is an AI controlled entirely by these same people. We can install all the safeguards we want into AI, but what's stopping a nation state from doing whatever they please with it?
And_yet_here_we_are t1_ja0z5lz wrote
Reply to comment by metalliska in Almost 40% of domestic tasks could be done by robots ‘within decade’ | Artificial intelligence (AI) by Gari_305
Try like 55 years ago. https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/mabel-the-robot-housemaid-1966/zhnvxyc
Coming in 1976.
phine-phurniture t1_ja0y64z wrote
Reply to comment by shanoshamanizum in A platform for products with no planned obsolescence by shanoshamanizum
Your online.... do you have a good postal system?
If so buy it thru cdn... newegg.... b and h photo.
If you have restrictions due to your governments actions or its own paranoia I dont know what you can do.
goto the us embassy and ask them...
imakenosensetopeople t1_ja0x0ud wrote
Reply to comment by Bigram03 in A platform for products with no planned obsolescence by shanoshamanizum
Printers are actually the cartridges themselves having shitty timeouts. The printer itself isn’t prematurely “choosing” to not function, it’s the supplier of the consumable consciously choosing to restrict the life of the consumable. I’d give a half point for planned obsolescence of a consumable because it’s shitty behavior but it’s also a consumable.
Apple getting “busted” was actually an intentional move they were doing to protect the battery life of their devices in the field as they aged. It’s arguable they should have let the consumer decide whether to have their battery drain faster or phone perform worse, but it wasn’t a measure to drive sales of new devices. If anything it probably drove more people to Android (who has an even worse track record for maintaining software on their older devices).
LittleBigSeed t1_ja0wmfb wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in The cities built to be reusable by WestEst101
That's fair! I still think it has promise.
H0sh1z0r4 t1_ja0uif5 wrote
Reply to comment by Tonyhillzone in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
that's what I say, people are afraid of robots and AI as if the human being were very reliable, we are in the hands of a race that is capable of enslaving, raping and murdering an entire nation for political interests, but the scary thing is the computer program that talks
6EQUJ5w t1_ja0ubco wrote
Note that planned obsolescence isn’t inherently bad. It‘s responsible to plan for the end of a product’s lifecycle. What’s problematic (by which I mean a total scam) is planned, arbitrarily-premature obsolescence that necessitates the purchase of new products when the old ones’ lifecycle could have been extended. That is indeed increasingly common.
Are there any regulatory statutes that attempt to curtail this practice (perhaps in the EU or California)?
Rustydustyscavenger t1_ja0t03v wrote
Reply to Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
I think every non physical job is going to get a massive pay cut because "ai can do it cheaper" whether or not that is true does not matter as its just another excuse
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Reply to comment by Surur in A platform for products with no planned obsolescence by shanoshamanizum
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hydraofwar t1_ja0r322 wrote
Reply to comment by beders in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
In my AGI/ASI dystopian fiction, it would resurrect our bodies and or minds and torture us again and again in countless different ways, creating a veritable hell.
UniversalMomentum t1_ja0nqn1 wrote
Reply to Archiving your mind, mentality and voice after death. Tell me how you feel about this. by Dimitar_Drew
Feel like eventually we'll be able to make an archive or copy so precise that it will serve as a backup to your brain and eventually we will have computers that can render it though you know realistically backing up your brain with today's technology is probably not going to create a viable product 100 years or whatever from now when we have the technology
Surur t1_ja0mjev wrote
Reply to comment by RideRunClimb in A platform for products with no planned obsolescence by shanoshamanizum
I understand microwaves have a finite life in any case due to slow deterioration of the mechanism which produces the microwaves.
The magetron has from 2000 to 8000 hrs of use.
Lord0fHats t1_ja0mfm6 wrote
Reply to comment by pete_68 in Prompt engineers demand by currency100t
Good luck I guess.
Irony is, once this stuff evolves out of single input generation and starts including 'select' and 'crop' the ability to understand basic design principles is just going to surge back into importance while the ability to 'prompt' is going to go back to being not very special.
It's also, hilariously, probably going to end a lot of this debate, since the process of selectively generating multiple pieces into a whole is a very different world.
UniversalMomentum t1_ja0loc7 wrote
I don't see how that is possible or necessary. You have a clandestine view of how products are made.
It's more like these things up an idea and maybe gets it to Market and through many cycles of iteration the product improves while also every new generation of Engineers want to have their chance to try to design a product or add new features and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
What about the damage it might do to Innovation and Engineering if you plan for your products to essentially never get upgrades?
Sorry nds like less jobs and less Innovation to me.
What Is the supposed upside here?
Think if the supposed upside is like waste you should just plan for robotic automation to clean up most of the waste that your business models can't.
If it's just a way to better products for consumers keep in mind a lot of people need that lowest possible purchase price option to for the product to be within their comfortable price ranges.
Cuz you make a product that lasts longer doesn't mean people are going to buy that product if also made the product cost more and normally to make a product last longer it also does cost more.
And see how there's some motivation to do this, but what you're talking about is I will complete Logistics nightmare where you also have to take away a lot of the decision making from the actual companies making the products.
First system where business is act more independent and kind of make their own decisions within and agreed framework of rules and laws versus kind of hurting everyone into the same mindset in an attempt to force a result.
Soo need to have a pretty good incentive on these long-lasting products for consumers and where the business is making them or it's like you're asking the government to take over all manufacturing take the profit out of it and make the products last as long as possible.
Sounds great at first but you have to keep in mind your Innovation Cycles would go down and your rate of progress would also go way down when you do that.
Some products are kind of just suited to be disposable because they're changing rapidly or they get used really hard.
Part of the reason we have batteries this good and screens this good is because people bought so many cell phones they theoretically didn't really need.
Prove the Innovation cycles and now we have cheaper screens and batteries for everything else so the waste did wind up having a payoff that you might be overlooking.
JaxJaxon t1_ja0lll1 wrote
Reply to comment by DonQuixBalls in The future of Starship includes national security missions - SpaceX’s Gary Henry said Starship holds the potential to become a mobility platform for the U.S. military by Gari_305
Yes for the most part they do. But each countries military have places that these things made for them are tested and here is where the problem of the money comes in. Approve our Plane, Tank, weapon and we will slip you some Cash, stock, perk. First the contracts are looked over and then a company or two are awarded the contract. Mabie they are looked over and Mabie not. I haven't had any contacts in that area for over 40 years. Then a prototype or two are made and tested. For Tanks and cannons it is at Aberdine Proving ground for missiles it is at Vandenberg space flight center. Hey Give this one a good review and we will compensate you. How else do the Government employees make enough money to have three houses some in other countries and a fat bank balance in several different Banks. Oh I am a simple Full bird col. that makes 200k a year but have three houses worth over 100 mil. Or the congress man that makes 15ok a year but is worth 500mil. And its not just in the U.S,A. that this is going on.
pete_68 t1_ja0lfmb wrote
Reply to comment by Lord0fHats in Prompt engineers demand by currency100t
No. Prompting is a skill like WRITING is a skill. People who can't write good prompts get shitty result. People who know how to write good prompts get good results. Half the people I see posting on here "Chat GPT can't do this or can't do that," don't know how to write a decent prompt.
And again, someone show me how you're going to prompt ChatGPT to write HTML and CSS to build something novel, with the same complexity as Google News, without confusing ChatGPT and actually getting something resembling what you want. I challenge anyone here to post that prompt.
Because I've done it. I know how hard it is to find the language that isn't confusing to the AI. You have to be careful about using words like "it" to make sure that the AI knows which of the 50 things you've previously discussed is the thing you're referring to.
All the people downvoting me haven't done anything more than trivial prompts with ChatGPT. Anyone who's done anything of any real complexity knows how hard it can be.
Lord0fHats t1_ja0l5um wrote
Reply to comment by pete_68 in Prompt engineers demand by currency100t
Prompting is a skill in the same sense that using a search engine is.
There was a time early in the dot com era where people were paid for being able to wrangle search engines. It's not much of a job anymore since its existence mostly owed itself to the machine being unintuitive and a lot of older people being tech unsavvy.
Why would you need to describe a web page layout in one go anyway? If there isn't a generative AI that can take overt successive steps one command at a time already, there will be eventually. You'd never need to sum up the entirety of the page in one go.
beders t1_ja0kfsg wrote
Reply to comment by 420resutidder in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
Nice sci-fi story bro
UniversalMomentum t1_ja0jmau wrote
Reply to Swedish researchers have developed an injectable gel that transforms into a conductive polymer inside the fins and brains of living zebrafish. The substance that transforms into a conductive polymer using the body’s chemistry could improve implantable electronics. by lughnasadh
What we need is substance you could inject and then use to make a high Precision map of the brain... Would be the beginning of making potentially full copies of the human brain which then could be rendered in a compiter someday.
I really need brain computer interfaces I just want to copy the entire human brain and then have it sitting around until be rendered in a computer.
Planet can't really survive if the lifespan of humans is too long...but copying the human brain into a computer would allow you to offer effective imnortalty without needing infinite resources and Dysons spheres and could make longer distance space travel possible because you're 100% tied to your squishy little biological body.
Implants on the others and I don't see really having a huge Market.
Holographic displays and better ways to interact with the computer sure, but the benefit of a neurological implant is going to have to be in the realm of f****** huge to be worth the effort even just injecting gel into your brain whatever that might do.
youthofoldage t1_ja0jm2h wrote
Reply to comment by Cunnilingusobsessed in Archiving your mind, mentality and voice after death. Tell me how you feel about this. by Dimitar_Drew
“San Junipero” one of the better episodes.
TheAce707 t1_ja0j1rl wrote
Reply to Archiving your mind, mentality and voice after death. Tell me how you feel about this. by Dimitar_Drew
The maze is sharp on my mind. The angles cut me when I try to think...
guyonahorse t1_ja0ii8z wrote
Reply to comment by jamesj in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj
- Of course it's possible
- We have nothing even close to it AI wise yet. Currently it's just inferencing.
Humans are a terrible example of an AGI as evolution is all about 'survival of the fittest'. Human AI creations have all had a specific purpose and a right/wrong answer (knowing the right answer is the only way to train an inferencing AI).
So what is the "right answer" of an AGI? If you don't have that, there's no current way to train one.
pete_68 t1_ja0ihhy wrote
Reply to comment by Character-Education3 in Batteries Made from Trees? It's More Than Just a Crazy Idea by Muted_Drop2791
Paper is generally made from fast growing softwood trees like southern pines, loblolly pines, spruces and firs, grown on tree farms specifically for paper making. Not the ideal trees for carbon sequestration, as trees go.
For that you want slower growing hardwood trees, particularly trees like black walnut, silver maple, sycamores, etc.
anon10122333 t1_ja11uj3 wrote
Reply to comment by ItsAConspiracy in Question for any AI enthusiasts about an obvious (?) solution to a difficult LLM problem in society by LettucePrime
Getting the AI to turn the essay into a podcast would be handy though.
>After a half century or so, everyone will get it through their thick heads that this is stupidly inefficient and just exchange the bullet points.
Naah, bullet point miss out on the language nuances that full text communicates, even in business