Yeah, good examples. Another example is that if you take a utilitarian point of view, way more people will live in the future than the present, so you may be willing to cause a lot of harm in the present to prioritize the well-being of future people.

Some printers are set to disable themselves after a certain number of pages, also ink cartridges will show no ink even though they still have plenty. Apple also got busted a few years back for slowing device performance of older units to get people to but new ones.

Manufacturers have also intentionally designed products with failure points in household items... there is a youtube channel that disassembles electronics and points these out. I'll have to go dig it up.

My microwave is in the process of dying the exact same way as my previous one. The latches on the door slowly wear grooves into the plastic they run over to latch. At first the door starts sticking and won't close and open properly. Then it stops latching altogether and becomes unusable. Both microwaves were purchased from Costco, I don't remember if they're the same brand.

The fact that this has happened on two microwaves in less than 6 years makes me consider that it's planned obsolescence. Of course I will try to repair the latches myself, but this could easily have been avoided had they used metal or even a harder plastic. I'm sure that people in charge of these decisions are informed about how long the products are expected to last.

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I also welcome our new artificially intelligent overloads! Hopefully they are a bit more logical than our current overlords. 😄

Knowing which biases to include in the AI is going to be difficult.

A purely logical mind could suggest things we're culturally unprepared for.

• Voluntary euthanasia (but for whom? At all ages?)

• Acceptable losses in war and also in peace

• Extinction of some species (or somehow weighing the balance between human lives and the environment)

• Elimination of some populations where it calculates a "greater good" for humanity. Or for the environment, depending on it's values. Or for the next gen of AI, for that matter.

• assassinations and rapid deployment of the death penalty

Analytically, security is vastly improved. Higher standards all around.

Constructively? I don’t know. There are more devices and more users, which means a larger attack surface and more targets.

Thank you - that was informative! Seems that no matter the actual explanation; whenever a product doesn’t work perfectly forever, people just jump right to “planned obsolescence.”

In your opinion, if you don’t mind me asking, is security getting any better in relation to IOT? My layman’s understanding was a lot of early IOT was just “set up and abandon” and stuff just went online without getting security patches, or only got patches for a short period of time.

I want my web site to survive me for several decades, and even this is hard to arrange.

I think this is an extremely valid point. We're already seeing this to a degree. It took a matter of days after Chat GPT's release before I saw my first recipe/ script for "suggest high SEO ranking headlines, now write articles to match those articles." There will be, at best, a time lag before search algorithms can respond to this.

im not sure but I thought i heard soon

buy? lol no one said to buy it.

yeah i knew that about real time but wasn‘t sure if they were using interactions. any ideas on when 3.5 is dropping to the public?

>I think the point you're missing is...

I provided an example. Now come up with a novel website with the complexity of Google News and do it in 30 words or less.

Who's missing the point?

Im not convinced that AI would do a worse job at running things than us.

>It's a lot of freaking words with tremendous detail and describing it in a way that isn't confusing for the AI is incredibly difficult.

I think the point you're missing is that very soon there won't be any reason to describe the layout of a website in tremendous detail. The "prompt" would be "reproduce the layout of Google News in HTML and CSS"

It wouldn’t be me.

Myself, as I exist, wouldn’t be aware of whatever this thing would be doing.

I probably wouldn’t be very accurate reflection of my personality, and even if it were, it would be the version of me in a moment frozen in time, like a vintage photograph or video, not capable of changing or understanding changes in the environment and society.

And that’s just me.
Just let my body and mind die and let my works have as much or as little influence as they deserve, and let the young uns chart the best path to best suit their own needs.

ChatGPT isn't learning in real time, but they are definitely using interactions with the users to refine the reinforcement learning / fine-tuning.

But you are missing the point completely mate. In case you don't know we already make a lot of paper and we have tons and tons of paper waste which could be used for this kind of new tech.

Yes, and these systems are a reflection of humanity as well, carrying with them much of the same potential and biases.

Far worse than nuclear weapons potentially. What if AI learns on it’s own how to manipulate human thoughts with electromagnetism? People might start taking actions that they believe are their own but are really being manipulated by an AI gone bad. How would this be possible? Something as smart as an AI might figure it out in a few milliseconds after activation…depending on the level of AI. Humans wouldn’t even know why we started a nuclear war. Or I’m sure there are other doomsday scenarios that could be initiated. Alternatively an AI might figure out how to make nuclear weapons inert by creating a bacteria that eats uranium and turns it into chocolate😄

No they certainly aren’t but to make a machine that has the tools available to to make the variety of dishes to the level of a good human cook is going to be ridiculously expensive to buy and run. I would assume a 3D printer type setup will be the future of quick nutritious meals, can’t see too many cyborgs in the kitchen in the foreseeable future.

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Some things need to be expected to have a longer service life. I despise the idea of smart washing machines and smart refrigerators because it locks them into a fairly brief period of time. Something like a refrigerator should be designed for at least 25 years, especially a very well built one like a Subzero or Thermadore.

The idea of a super tech lover smart refrigerator that is expensive and needs to be replaced in 5-6 years. A really good refrigerator should be kicking for decades. I would trade smart features over long term robustness. Hell, I would give up cold settings, in unit water filtration, in unit ice maker an a ton of other shit if the refrigerator was built to last 40 years.

HVAC and Water heaters should also be 25+ year appliances.

I think with computers, it is reasonable that due to things like Moore's law they are not relevant forever. No one would expect a computer from 2003 to operate in today's world, and the computers 20 years from now will be the same jump in performance. I know people who feel the need to replace their computer every year or two, which i find to be silly. I use my computer more than they do, mine is over 5 years old and is still a total champion. I feel it will be rolling with the times when it is 8 years old. Computer service life should be like $400 per year. $2000 computer should last 5 years. High end computers that have very high price tags have their own cost structure, some $50,000 workstation I would not expect to last 100+ years.

I am not a phone guy, but my mentality is that a phone should last 1 year for every $100 spent on it. I use an iPhone SE2. I paid $450 or so for my model. I have had it for almost 3 years, I expect it to last until it is 4.5 years old. Granted, while the phone was $100 per year, the stupid phone bull was much, much more than that.

It doesn't matter because the robots will probably kill us all before the government gets around to that.