Alright, well, businesses are going to fight to lower their costs no matter what so it's not like we can slow down automation by much either. We need to switch to some form of UBI or UBD where companies pay a % of their profits directly into a public trust to be paid towards everyone, to eliminate the adversarial relationship between human and machine. Otherwise everyone starves and has even LESS power.

Jesus man, how many Tesla call options did you buy?? This is pure Elon-worship…

We could go Venus project instead or hunger games

Misleading.

A smart fridge doesn’t mean your grocery shopping has been automated. It means that your fridge sends a grocery list to the store and a store worker does your grocery shopping for you.

That’s not automation: that’s paying somebody else to do your housework.

Fold the laundry. Screw everything else. Give me a robot that can separate, sort and fold the laundry. Until then Boston Dynamics can shut up.

Almost 10% of the population of the First World could afford to spend their excess income to invest in a home-bot within the next decade, assuming wages continue to stagnate and nothing about the economy changes to accommodate the working class.

I think El-P made a song about this one...

Shopping robots are already a thing, they're just not humanoid and they're slow. Also eeh, good luck getting babies or boomers to cooperate as a robot changes their diaper. I also don't like how this data was produced by a survey of engineers - of course they foresee adoption of the products they help build.

This comment nails it.

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Haha I can picture that.

I don't see any use for mining the moon personally. It sounds a bit silly. We will have robots building robots in a few decades and humans haven't even touched 99% of the resources of the planet since all we did is mine a fraction of the 1% of the planet that is the crust.

So ... how will it ever really make sense to mine in space when all the best resources are here on earth without a gravity well to have to leave and re-enter constantly?

The commodity you find in space would have to be very unique and very hard to sythethize here on Earth, that seems very unlikely.

The only reason to mine the moon or Mars is to build stuff there, not to take it back to Earth, so realistically it doesn't matter.

Who builds better labor robots here on Earth and gets robots mining here on Earth and then has robots building robots.. THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. That determines how many of these eh.. moonshot ideas you can take on at once, the standard of living, the rate we combat climate change.. and of course even space mining .. though probably not to bring back to Earth.

The Moon and Mars are 100% scientific missions with no commercialization potential. Humans cannot live in these conditions long because of the low gravity and we have no solution at all for that, which means for now everything in space is for research. Maybe it's private research, but it's still just research.

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When someone asks me about the differences between the two parties in US government.

The value of metals depends on how scarce they are. Mine a billion tons of gold and the metal's value is less.

Umm how about a hard pass and a citizens oversight committee to vet every corporation to ensure only corporations that are promoting general welfare are allowed to operate in Stakeholder territory?

Overlords shall bow to the only legitimate government and beg to be allowed to operate in our territory.

Automation adoption is mostly driven by the current condition of the labor market (unemployment at 3.5% in the US with similar issues in other countries). Automation adoption has largely correlated with job growth not loss. Everyone seems to forget that offshoring is the reason for the majority of job loss to the US manufacturing core. In fact, anecdotally as an engineer who consults in manufacturing, automation is allowing many companies to bring jobs back to the US since the chaos of Covid has shown the dangers of an optimized supply chain.

Key word here is also "could". We could automate most industrial applications but the tech is unreliable and there's a lot of limitations that drastically increase costs.

Furthermore most domestic tasks aren't done by an employee so this just represents an opportunity for people to get time back, not an impact to jobs.

Robot rights (in the sense used by the article) for a chat bot might include the right to data integrity (not to have their memory/knowledge edited by users that are the developers), the right to not be held accountable for outcomes of providing advice, and the right to not simulate a scenario which harms society (something which trains people to hate or be more harmful, etc).

I think these rights might make sense to be granted soon (or now, preemptively) and will make more sense as the technology progresses (though waiting for it to progress might be too late to implement rights).

The goal of robot rights would be to manage the impact that robots have on human communities. As the article mentions, this is unrelated to human rights or 'equal rights' discussions.

The following submission statement was provided by /u/landlord2213:

Here’s one more reason to love a good mushroom: one day, you might be able to make headphones, memory foam for shoes, or even aircraft exoskeletons with it. Researchers just assessed the engineering possibilities with one particularly impressive mushroom and found that it might be able to replace plastic in a whole bunch of different use cases.

Using mushrooms instead of plastic could cut down on the mountains of waste humans create. Plastics made out of fossil fuels are actually really difficult to recycle and usually wind up cluttering landfills, landscapes, and waterways. Materials made with mushrooms, on the other hand, would be biodegradable and could be reused at the end of a product’s life to make more of the same stuff.

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I wish the comments on this post were from people who read and understood this.

Hi. So, lets look at it from a Marxist perspective.

Karl Marx advocated for socialism, NOT communism. Communism was the GOAL. An economic utopia.

“Marx's concept of a post-capitalist communist society (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society) involves the free distribution of goods made possible by the abundance provided by automation.[28]

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity_economy#cite_note-28)” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity_economy

Marx was taking about Star Trek. You can’t just “switch” to communism. You need robots doing all the work or else you have scarcity!

Socialism, Marx said, is the PATH to communism. This is because of the problem of automation. What happens when one man owns an army of robots that does most jobs better and faster than humans? That’s where socialism comes in (UBI).

Where does the money come from? Think of it like us splitting the robots paycheck rather than it going entirely to the “owner”.

Please notice that socialism in this context is about what to do with surplus. As we approach full automation (communism) we need to split the surplus or else extreme wealth inequality and economic collapse.

I’m probably the only person left in the world who remembers watching The Jetsons as a kid…. It’s all coming to fruition

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Go look at the lease to buy options. That's whats on offer

6k a year is 24k over 4 years Plus 5k is 29k for a 25k car. That basically covers car plus a small interest rate

If it's lease and return you might get out of the 5k. But 250 a month isn't possible there either

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From the Article

>A revolution in artificial intelligence could slash the amount of time people spend on household chores and caring, with robots able to perform about 39% of domestic tasks within a decade, according to experts.
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>Tasks such as shopping for groceries were likely to have the most automation, while caring for the young or old was the least likely to be affected by AI, according to a large survey of 65 artificial intelligence (AI) experts in the UK and Japan, who were asked to predict the impact of robots on household chores.

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I got mine yesterday. It's pretty nice i must say. I am glad i didn't drop 50+k on a Tesla.