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My timelines have my 50% range for AGI centered around 2024 (late 2024 to be fair from recollection, and at this point I wouldn't be shocked by earlier). Honestly though, I'd have to see something significant to really speed up my timelines more meaningfully than 'occurring inside the range expected'. Something like evidence of progress on strong AGI instead of weak. My timelines for that still have strongly operationalized (not quite the same as strong I suppose) AGI up around 2030.

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Why would they test the embryos for that?

As far as I understand in the US they would need to test their wallets, because no matter how intelligent a person is he/she is not going to college there if his/her parents can't afford it.

We know that allready. There is a more reliable test the zip code one, but you know. Someone is ready to make some money for rich people that believe that their wealth stems only from their skills. Nothing to do whatsoever with privilege

Just like education (a form of human enhancement even according to transhumanists) was not offered to u/StarsinmyOcean .

Oh wait.

It was an improvement. Keeping your numbers in balance is a requirement for peace. There is only so much land and slaves to leech off. The same is true for assets and passive income today.

There is nothing worse than a 2-4 son with military training, growing up with status and no inheritance in sight. Throat cutting is guaranteed under such conditions.

Spartan society was all about keeping the ranks tight.

We can predict with reasonable accuracy if your child will go to college from your ZIP code, no needles required.

Thank you, I will definitely give that a listen. I'm from Germany, so I'm not that familiar with US-history. But given the stance of several of their secret services and what kind of "experiments" they did with their own citizens, I'm not surprised that they went into eugenics as well.

Still sounds pretty fucking dystopian.

Eugenics was huge in the US as well from the late 19th century all the way into the mid 20th century. There have been horrible atrocities committed in the name of eugenics including thousands upon thousands of forced serializations. Here is an excellent podcast called Criminal that did an episode on it.

https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-165-unfit/

I would agree. I can see why some people would defend it, but it's not a world I'd want to live in. I mean, there's a reason that it's officially called a "dystopian" movie. It's kind of like with "Equilibrium" or "Elysium". Your life might be fine, as long as you fit the parameters to be on the winners' side, but if not, you're in a living hell.

It's a stand one can take if one doesn't see the fallacies of a dystopian society like Gattaca.

"Abraham Lincoln might have butt fucked your great great grandma." - historian

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It is certainly debatable what is acceptable and what is not. But, for me at least, the thought of living in a world without any kind of personal freedom, where more or less society decides for you what you ought to be doing, is a pretty horrible scenario.

This is not a condemnation, but I think, in actuality, he would probably be seen as a pretty good citizen, for the fact that he agrees with the whole eugenics- and pre-selection thing that is expressed in the movie. It's a stand one can take, for sure, and I see their reasons, but I disagree wholeheartedly with it.

In movies like this, those that are "perfect" in the eyes of society often don't have such a terrible life. But all the others suffer. In the case of Gattaca particularly the most abhorrent thing to me is the eugenics (something that is banned for a good reason, not only because the Nazis implemented something along these lines, according to their state of technology back then). In my opinion, the whole scenario leads to a kind of slavery where one isn't granted any personal freedom, not better than what happens in an ant-state, devoid of any humanity.

Why aren't people having babies? Also, we will determine your entire future at birth...

There was a movie... Gattaca... Is it gonna become a documentary like Idiocracy?

Wooosh, right over your head. In a Gattaca-esque world you would be unfit to post comments online because of your lack of critical thinking skills.

True Bioethics exist but so do psychopaths, clearly.

We will simply create designer babies and cull the undesirable. That's some corporate genocidal shit. What could possibly go wrong

What? No! We MUST keep overpopulating while not providing social safety nets!

You know what? I really don’t know what the hell Republicans thought process is. Real Christians would care about humans AFTER they’re born too.

lol wow bro

No, I really didn't.

They were attempting to make a point about the less than infallible path that genetics takes towards capability and success.

The character they chose to embody that message nearly had a heart attack because he had to run on a treadmill for a few extra minutes and it strained his congenital heart defect yet somehow thinks it's acceptable to hide that fact when trying to go on a long duration space mission.