Everyone loves to mention the white utopia in their dream scenario

Comparing the two countries is not possible because the US and it's scale are not comparable. Even with proportionality making sense, it isn't a priority in the legislature.

You should try volunteering at a shelter or soup kitchen sometime. Even one day would probably be enough to learn that funding someone's drug addiction is actually quite cruel. It's not about what it costs us, it's about what it costs them.

But given the population difference between the two countries, Finland actually had a higher proportion of homeless before this (using the numbers you provided, I didn't confirm them), so I'd say they're doing something quite right.

The point is that I don't want to meet one ever. It shall not exist.

I don't care if people do drugs or overdose, don't work, do nothin all day. It is cheap to provide housing, food, clothing. Relative to productivity levels it costs next no nothing.

Let people live their lifes as long or short as they see fit.

You seem to be suggesting that the root problem is people feeling uncomfortable seeing homeless. As if that's the only issue? If these Karens could just get over the sight of poverty and despair, it'd all be OK?

Visible symptoms of the root problem? I agree

You can't help people who don't want to be helped, no matter how much money you have.

Their visibility isn't what's making others uncomfortable. It's more the poop on the sidewalks, the public drug use, the theft, the littering, etc, etc.

It's like East Palestine but different.

You are dumb. It is not unsolvable. Yes you will always have homeless. Not to this degree though. I was homeless and now am not. Though I balance on the edge. I have no drug problems and my mental problems are not job/social breaking. Why am I always close to homeless and prior homeless? Because I do not have a college degree and no one highers for much if any above minimum wage. Minimum wage is not livable in any state currently. I can not go to college because I do not make enough money to save/pay for college. Cannot get loans because who loans to a recently homeless person with bad credit? Cant get credit up because who gives credit cards to bad credit people? Cant get a home because I have bad credit. Cant get good credit because I cant pay off debts. Cant pay off debts because no job will pay me more then 15-16$. Rent is a few hundred under exactly what i bring home every month. Raises are less then inflation. Cant move up because no college degree. Cant get a car to have maybe better possibilities because I cant get a savings going. Cant get medical coverage because poor. Pay fines for not have medical coverage because poor. Miss a bill because sick. Get fined for missing a bill. Cant pay new bill because poor and missed work and no medical coverage.

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See how once you are poor you are cycled to never get out of that pocket, unless some helps you or you get lucky? Why drugs are such an issue also. Once you are this poor and you realize you have no way up, whats the point?

And the highest sushi consumption per capita, as long as we’re spouting unrelated trivia.

>solved it

They cut it by almost 70% which is impressive, but with 17k homeless in Finland, they are only dealing with a very small amount. The US has nearly 600,000, and that is just the recorded people.

And highest suicides.

How naive can you be? It sounds like youve never met a homeless person in your life.

You still don't get it, to clarify, I do not condone genocide to the homeless. I was merely listing options that are frequently analyzed in this debate.

Depends on the state. Laws can be changed

So only white people can have good social policies? Bold statement.

Japan has the lowest homeless rate in the world, BTW.

I don't know if that is possible under our current laws.

Maybe if more people thought people with out a college education deserve a livable wage.

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Its hopelessness.

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Why work a 40 hour a week job to make just enough for a small apartment, barely any food, no extras, knowing that all it takes is one sick week or weather or you're car quits working then you are back on the street to do it all over again.

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Along with no home, most jobs wont hire you with out a home address. Cant get a home address with a job. Cant afford college because no one will loan a homeless person college money. No one will load any money to someone with bad credit because of perpetual homelessness or barely making it by to go into debt over a missed bill because you had to get medicine. Cant afford Health Care because no extra money from the under livable wage job. Can't move up in any job because you have to work years at most non college, non trade school type jobs, to get to a livable wage and even then it isn't always livable.

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Head Manager at a Burger King I worked at made 22$ an hour to work 80+ hours a week, be the training manager also and training store. She worked 3 years to get to that position. 3 years to make a wage that is already under livable in most of the country. Even at 22$ and all this, she tried to find other jobs that would pay her worth in resume. All the other places offered her about the same with more or less options then current. It because, as i posted in another place, we actually have people who think finding a livable wage job is easy. It is not.

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I am a prior vet with 6 years of military school and 6 years of moving constantly up in my career field, 10 years in retail, 4 years in food, 4 years in other decent skill fields. 37 years old. Male. Decent shape. Cant find anyone willing to pay me over 18$ an hour. Which is not a livable wage at all, when the national average is above that, and even those people are almost living pay check to pay check. I cant afford college because I cant even afford a car. I ride to work on a bike no matter the weather. EVEN if i stay at the same job I am at and move up to the highest i can with out a college degree, and the position was actually open, I need to wait roughly 5 years to make 20$ an hour. So even if i work my ass off i still will be making less with annual raises then the natural inflation of our economy leading me to always be living pay check to pay check and no way to build retirement knowing I am going to be working until i die, with no health care, ill die a miserable most likely cancer death.

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So now days I just have enough to make me happy and be able to pack in a military bag and a back pack, in my apartment. Knowing any time I could not have enough and be homeless. It kinda makes being homeless seem just as easy when you get used to being homeless. Sure I love a roof over my head but I know its not permanent for me. It just takes one problem and poof.

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I’ve volunteered for these exact affordable housing projects in NYC, and the requirements aren’t there out of any sense of people making their own choices.

Drug addicts endanger the apartment block as a whole, and are exceedingly more likely to cause serious damage to the housing. You shouldn’t only consider those who are currently homeless, but those people who are legitimately working to improve their situation or those who face too low wages.

The idea of a requirement-free homeless shelter has been tried many times. It almost always fails spectacularly, with the housing being destroyed ruining the lives of those who “behave”. If you had ANY experience with this you would know that.

Yeah, imagine the army corps of engineers building housing facilities.

The trained federal professionals that run much of the infastructure of the USA and do ongoing constructiom for millions of military employees.

What a crazy thought. Upgrading a tent to a barrack facility at a bare minimum.

Just send a president to visit. You will be surprised how fast the city gets clean of their homeless