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BlueberryTyrant t1_j8j0rtk wrote

You would need extremely advanced sensors tracking everything. You would also need to automate responses to each misbalance. It COULD be doable, but with so many moving parts, opportunities for failure are all everyone. The code running it all has to be perfectly stable, and a tech team needs to be on hand constantly. You also will still need ecologists on hand to provide an expert human’s eye on the system to catch deviations that the gear can’t.

We just aren’t there yet.

Frankly, unless we can achieve faster than light travel, this has to be developed to survive microgravity anyways, as an ecosphere is our only feasible way to keep people fed and watered and oxygenated and waste manages for years at a time. So you have to not only solve this, but you have to solve this for microgravity as well.

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SilveredFlame t1_j8j0q0o wrote

Stop. Trying. To. Police. People's. Choices. About. Their. Own. Lives.

You sound like a fascist just from your word choice, as fascists typically pick out things to label as "degenerate" or "decadent" to create a narrative of some kind of societal or cultural "decay" or "decline" that is inevitably the fault of an outgroup they're going to scapegoat to gain political power.

Let's take your bed toilet example.

Imagine in the morning not needing to take time for urination or defecation because it was all handled while you slept and your innards are impeccably maintained because of the nightly work that gets done, greatly increasing your overall health and keeping you healthy for longer.

That's a bad thing? Because you view it as nothing more than someone finding a way to be "lazy"?

How many older folks have to get up multiple times a night to urinate? Imagine all those folks being able to get a full night of restful sleep and how much healthier they will be.

Oh but that's bad because it's "lazy" to you?

What the fuck do you even care? Even if they are just being lazy, so what? Are dishwashers bad because they reduce your workload for doing dishes, enabling you to be lazy? Is mechanical transportation bad because it reduces the need for people to walk? Are pulleys bad because they reduce the work necessary to lift and move heavy loads, enabling folks to be lazy and not build the muscle required to just do it themselves?

It's a completely ridiculous and absurd premise resulting from an extremely self centered, short sighted, and fundamentally cruel worldview that deliberately creates outgroups to attack without any consideration for larger questions/impacts, or even just basic empathy.

Why do you care if someone wants to make themselves a "furry sex machine"? If it makes them happy why do you care? They're not hurting anyone.

What purpose does being so obsessed with other people's private lives serve other than to restrict personal freedom?

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frobischer t1_j8iwpfv wrote

I ran a modern roleplaying campaign years ago based on the emergence of man-machine interface and real-time neural access to phone apps and communications. This was one of the outgrowths, that came to be called Shadows, as they were a marketing-scheme that evolved into personality backups. In fact the systems started creating Shadows of long-gone people for historical preservation purposes. A futuristic ghost story.

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frobischer t1_j8ivt1v wrote

Here's the abstract from the original paper in Nature Energy:
"The use of vast amounts of high-purity water for hydrogen production may aggravate the shortage of freshwater resources. Seawater is abundant but must be desalinated before use in typical proton exchange membrane (PEM) electrolysers. Here we report direct electrolysis of real seawater that has not been alkalised nor acidified, achieving long-term stability exceeding 100 h at 500 mA cm−2 and similar performance to a typical PEM electrolyser operating in high-purity water. This is achieved by introducing a Lewis acid layer (for example, Cr2O3) on transition metal oxide catalysts to dynamically split water molecules and capture hydroxyl anions. Such in situ generated local alkalinity facilitates the kinetics of both electrode reactions and avoids chloride attack and precipitate formation on the electrodes. A flow-type natural seawater electrolyser with Lewis acid-modified electrodes (Cr2O3–CoOx) exhibits the industrially required current density of 1.0 A cm−2 at 1.87 V and 60 °C."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-023-01195-x

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wwarnout t1_j8ir24q wrote

>Only issue is what to do with the brine/solids left after electrolysis.

...and this is not an insignificant consideration. If we're going to generate clean water on a scale necessary for many people, we'll have a lot of waste to deal with.

Still, getting near 100% conversion efficiency is a huge deal.

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Wonderful_Weird_2843 t1_j8ipbsi wrote

Personally I see a person looking "like a giant purple rabbit" that had flexible thinking and problem solving in many different areas and environments a better bet on surviving than someone classifying that choice as ridiculous. Besides the possible physical benefits (fur insulation, better hearing, veganism), they would probably be a hell more fun to hang out with.

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Wonderful_Weird_2843 t1_j8ip7dn wrote

Much of humanity is already "degenerate" by this definition. In times and places without written language, some people who passed information orally believed writing was decadent and would ruin the human ability to memorize.

The industrial revolution introduced mass production of material goods and food which changed everything Unless you make homemade soup by scavenging, or planning the raising the plants and animals you put in it then use animal skin that you harvested and tanned to hold it over the fire to cook it then go to sleep under a blanket that you weave from thread you spun as soon as it gets dark.

The digital revolution changed everything again making more information increasingly available and changing the way humans store and access it.

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Cheapskate-DM t1_j8imt6d wrote

Worth noting cobalt is a conflict mineral, but it's a hell of a lot more affordable than platinum. This could be massive if implemented correctly. In addition to terrestrial applications, this could be huge for space-related applications where electrolysis of ice water is your primary source of oxygen.

Only issue is what to do with the brine/solids left after electrolysis.

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FuturologyBot t1_j8im3rr wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/__The__Anomaly__:


University of Adelaide’s Professor Shizhang Qiao and Associate Professor Yao Zheng from the School of Chemical Engineering led an international team that successfully split seawater without pre-treatment to produce green hydrogen.

Professor Qiao said, “We have split natural seawater into oxygen and hydrogen with nearly 100 per cent efficiency, to produce green hydrogen by electrolysis, using a non-precious and cheap catalyst in a commercial electrolyser.”

The team published their research in the journal Nature Energy.

A typical non-precious catalyst is cobalt oxide with chromium oxide on its surface.

Associate Professor Zheng explained, “We used seawater as a feedstock without the need for any pre-treatment processes like reverse osmosis desolation, purification, or alkalization. The performance of a commercial electrolyser with our catalysts running in seawater is close to the performance of platinum/iridium catalysts running in a feedstock of highly purified deionized water.

Professor Zheng added, “Current electrolysers are operated with highly purified water electrolyte. Increased demand for hydrogen to partially or totally replace energy generated by fossil fuels will significantly increase scarcity of increasingly limited freshwater resources.”


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