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Sirisian t1_j8h8gvq wrote
Reply to What if AI companies are using our prompts to create low-resolution models of our entire identities? by roiseeker
In Star Trek this is seen as a positive thing when used for historical reasons. A prolific writer with a detailed history is able to be reconstructed as closely as possible to have a conversation with. This is an element in a number of their Holodeck episodes. (It's also seen as taboo or maybe against regulation to generate holograms of crewmates).
As we move into a future with mixed reality the amount of data one can capture could entail most of a person's life recorded from their point of view. There will be hundreds of thousands of such archives collecting dust or used for training. Think of it like when Marion Stokes recorded old TV on VHS tapes, but this would be the real world in lightfield video formats. From a historical point of view stepping back in time where someone else lived is fascinating. Talking to them could offer very unique perspectives, very different from someone in the future.
It might be a bit weird to apply it in our time, but at some point it'll just be something that's possible. Like when you predict what your friend or spouse would say or how they'd react because you know them so well. That it's an AI doing it is different, but not really unexpected.
Legal-Software t1_j8h8bti wrote
Reply to What if AI companies are using our prompts to create low-resolution models of our entire identities? by roiseeker
The dark side of AI is not the AI itself, but that people will accept its decision making as-is with little transparency and little recourse, while the companies making the models hide behind trade secret protections to prevent any scrutiny or oversight. This is already happening with regards to things like private companies in the US providing non-transparent prison sentencing recommendations using AI, where things like skin colour were picked up by the model as relevant factors in determining sentencing length (the data shows there are more dark-skinned people in prison, therefore the AI logically infers that they are more likely to be offenders, and adjusts the parameters accordingly). With no oversight or transparency, it's not always clear what parameters are identified as relevant, what weights they have from one layer to the next, and what kind of biases exist within in the network.
Part of my day job entails developing AI and ML models for assessing driving risk (both of human drivers and of self-driving vehicles), and it's clear that these models and technologies will always have faults that require error correction and monitoring. A vital part of improving any model is knowing when it gets things right and when it gets things wrong - by removing the feedback mechanism you in effect prevent any real improvements from being made and ensure the continued mediocrity of the outputs.
RolfEjerskov OP t1_j8h8aat wrote
Reply to comment by jeremiah256 in Will full self driving be lingering around in beta for a decade or two? by RolfEjerskov
It seems highways are the easiest of self-driving because of its predictability.
The main issue that needs to be overcome it seems, is that AI has to be able to interpret the world as well as a human does...
With that said, if cars can interact the can move as one and it would be a leap forward.
nohwan27534 t1_j8h85zy wrote
Reply to comment by SoylentRox in Would an arcology be conceivably possible? by peregrinkm
Looking at a calculator, 40 by 10 foot pool by 30 centimeters deep is like 11k liters, 11 cubic feet, 36 square feet. You can get around 6 to 15 grams per cubic meter per day. It's about 660 wet grams per day, 66 dried. Not really a nutrient difference, just the wet is mostly water, would be more filling.
Spirulina per 7 grams is 20 calories, about 3% of your daily salt, 2% potassium, 1% daily fiber, 8% protein, 1% vitamin c, 11% iron, 3% magnesium. Presumably 9ther shit. Doesn't have calcium, weirdly, vitamin d, b6, presumably other shit.
Let's round up to 70 for ease - you'd only have around a tenth of the calories needed, be done with protein and iron needs, everything else iffy. It's only about 10 tablespoons of slime dried out, 70 spoonfuls of spinach stuff otherwise.
Kinda the same issue with food pills - even if you can add all the daily vitamin needs in a pill, calories aren't that easy to condense. It can grow a lot faster, for sure, but it's more than a "few" liters per person, which is fine, but it's also not nearly enough to be the end all be all dietary requirements.
Tnuvu t1_j8h84i0 wrote
Reply to What if AI companies are using our prompts to create low-resolution models of our entire identities? by roiseeker
Why not extend on it:
- They use the entire net to teach it and allow it to learn and build a meta modal of everything (there's plenty of complaints that gpt gives exact same quotes as in copyrighted books)
- They use the "use it free" model to confirm and strengthen the model they built, with people willingly inputing data, heck, we have people dumb enough to input company code in there...
At some point, someone will do a mistake with a jailbreak version of it, or it will itself learn how to do that on its own, given we've already seen more than 5 years ago, 2 AIs teaming up together to beat other players/AI despite initially being programmed independent.
Truth be told, we have very little knowledge of how it actually works, the leaps I mean, and also, we have almost no trace of control over it. It's all merely an illusion
Someone better get Sarah Connor
RolfEjerskov OP t1_j8h81uf wrote
Reply to comment by OwlBeneficial2743 in Will full self driving be lingering around in beta for a decade or two? by RolfEjerskov
I think that in general autonomous driving is already more safe than human driving. Try to check out this guys experiences driving with FSV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGXuVNl8YYc
It's quite clear that the AI is just not there yet. Stops at so many places where humans wouldn't. You simply can't rely on the system...
I'm actually also surprised that autonomous driving hasn't become political yet as well.
Darkhorseman81 t1_j8h73xt wrote
Reply to comment by Riccma02 in 7 international companies have teamed with the EU to form the International Hyperloop Association, the industry's first trade body. by lughnasadh
Those Tube rail systems work better.
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[deleted] t1_j8h6xck wrote
Reply to comment by ryan_s007 in How ChatGPT Could Revolutionize Job Automation [Opinion] by ryan_s007
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nohwan27534 t1_j8h6on5 wrote
Reply to comment by SoylentRox in Would an arcology be conceivably possible? by peregrinkm
Spirulina iirc is nutrient rich, but you still need calories - something a spoonful of algae isn't chock full of.
Not to mention you presumably also want to diversify your diet in other ways - waters a good idea for both aquatic plants and fish, potentially.
But this post wasn't about that. We literally do not have materials strong enough to easily dome a community this large. One of the biggest can hold like 55k people - not homes, not space for growing food, or businesses, storage, or any of the other minutia of a society, literally sitting space for bodies.
Underground and several story buildings can help magnify the usefulness of the space again, but it's still pretty impractical. It's a nice idea, it could potentially make for new city opportunities in desert or otherwise less than habitable areas, but there's not a good reason to do it, we can't do it very well, or to the degree you=e talking about, with current tech. - and even if we did force the issue, they still wouldn't be self sufficient in all ways.
xIdlez t1_j8h6gxc wrote
No_Squirrel9238 t1_j8h6gr0 wrote
Reply to What if AI companies are using our prompts to create low-resolution models of our entire identities? by roiseeker
it is happening.
Amazon has been caught multiple times recording from their echo devices non stop
they use it to strengthen voice detection and make customer profiles
elfballs t1_j8h65ir wrote
Reply to What if AI companies are using our prompts to create low-resolution models of our entire identities? by roiseeker
There is way more data than that on most of us already, and yes, it is bought and sold by people who do not have your best interests in mind.
ElectroNight t1_j8h645j wrote
The discussion is fun and all, but the work that Tesla computer vision and machine learning teams are doing is ground breaking and they are way way ahead on the bleeding edge of what is possible, compared to Detroit, Tokyo and Germany.
I've worked in trying to use CNNs and image and depth sensor fusion to accomplish way more simple tasks then FSD and this stuff is really hard and takes a vast commitment of time, energy and capital.
But it indeed might take another decade for a general solution that is at least as good as an average human. But interim performance milestones with minimal but critical occasional human assist could still be very acceptable to some of us
Olosta_ t1_j8h5rl6 wrote
Reply to comment by OriginalCompetitive in 7 international companies have teamed with the EU to form the International Hyperloop Association, the industry's first trade body. by lughnasadh
Hyperloop companies are "supported" by the EU per the linked announcement. This is tax payer money that is not invested somewhere else, like trains.
SoylentRox t1_j8h5omo wrote
Reply to comment by nohwan27534 in Would an arcology be conceivably possible? by peregrinkm
Go check the numbers on spirulina. The math says you need a few LITERs per person of growing algae. Even if it's 10 times less efficient than that it's just not the problem you think it is.
Thegoodthebadandaman t1_j8h5mk6 wrote
Reply to comment by lughnasadh in 7 international companies have teamed with the EU to form the International Hyperloop Association, the industry's first trade body. by lughnasadh
Kind of sad to see that the EU is investing into this grift, was under the impression that those guys normally had a pretty level head on matters like this.
ryan_s007 OP t1_j8h5kt4 wrote
Reply to comment by aizaz-zazii in How ChatGPT Could Revolutionize Job Automation [Opinion] by ryan_s007
Did you write this using ChatGPT?
nohwan27534 t1_j8h5jwm wrote
Reply to comment by SoylentRox in Would an arcology be conceivably possible? by peregrinkm
Again - space becomes the issue. You don't tend to easily make a giant fucking dome that big - screw the other stuff, structurally speaking this doesn't work well.
I've thought long and hard about this idea too, specifically in space - rather than bases on the moon or mMars, living in a Dyson swarm ish system with a acre of solar panels and a 1 mile diameter tube living space. That much solar energy will fuel about a million people, the tube could spin pretty slowly to simulate gravity, and it can be as long as needed.
But we don't have quite the strong resources for enclosing like, an 8th if NYC. It's spread around 300 square miles, and the entire state of New York has 7 million acres of farmland - and still only can grow like 30% of new Yorks food. And there's no way to just dome that shit.
It's an interesting idea. But atm we have the ability to do it, if unpleasantly, on a small scale (not just 4 people, lol), but we don't have the engineering capable of doing it on even a decent 50k sized city, really, much less a million people - and it's still not self sufficient. Even if it has enclosed and looped water, air, food, etc, it doesn't have self enclosed production of wood, plastics, fabrics, metals, industry, electronics, etc
fkthem t1_j8h5goy wrote
Reply to comment by 3SquirrelsinaCoat in What if AI companies are using our prompts to create low-resolution models of our entire identities? by roiseeker
Uh, well fuckin said, dude.
Big data is already doing it though, Google's and Amazon's "fire hose" raw data feeds are already being processed in building those psychological profiles. Whistleblowers already exposed it.
ZeenTex t1_j8h535t wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in 7 international companies have teamed with the EU to form the International Hyperloop Association, the industry's first trade body. by lughnasadh
Part of the reason for digging up the hyperloop concept is that you can gain many of the advantages at near vacuum instead of full vacuum.
The concept seems feasible and might be commercially viable, and if it is, has the potential to significantly reduce flights within the continent.
It might not work out, or not be feasible yet, but I for one am happy were at least looking into it.
And while many here say instead we need to push high speed rail, we'll, look at the state high speed rail is in. While it may attain high speed, getting from Amsterdam to Italy or even Paris is all but fast.
FirstWorldChaika t1_j8h51d5 wrote
If I'm not affecting or hurting anyone in any way then what I do with my tech/hardware/software is none of your business.
How you're going to know what people do with their shit, surveillance?
Who's going to decide what's degenerate and what is not, you?
Are you that much of a saint that you feel you have the right to know what people do in the privacy of their room/house/minds/body and judge them? I really would like to know who you are if that's the case man, you must have an holy aura around you and everything!
[deleted] OP t1_j8h4t2i wrote
Reply to comment by CloserToTheStars in Drawing the line between positive use of technology and degeneracy by [deleted]
Definitely not. I am all for human augmentation and automation. I just believe that these things should be approached with a degree of discipline and forethought. It's the same principle as how being rich doesn't mean you need to consume for no reason.
Tuurke64 t1_j8h4ekl wrote
Reply to Would an arcology be conceivably possible? by peregrinkm
I think it's unlikely to work. We're more dependent on micro organisms than we realize. The human body needs some essential vitamins (like B12) that only certain bacteria can make. We normally ingest it through meat. And we probably haven't even discovered all essential vitamins yet.
RolfEjerskov OP t1_j8h8jmm wrote
Reply to comment by Devadander in Will full self driving be lingering around in beta for a decade or two? by RolfEjerskov
>GM supercruise
Thanks Devadander:) I've actually looked into Supercruise a bit. I saw it didn't recognise the end of road and just pass onto grass. It seemed a bit off.
I'll dig into Mercedes. Thanks