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WealthyMarmot t1_j9mv3jd wrote

Reply to comment by gregra193 in Circuit loses power GFCI by SorenAmroth

> The fridge should really be on a dedicated circuit and also not downstream from a GFCI.

Yeah, as long as the fridge outlet is at least six feet from the sink. Otherwise it requires a GFCI (at least in my area).

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WealthyMarmot t1_j9mt6zv wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Circuit loses power GFCI by SorenAmroth

> OP said the outlet is GFCI not the breaker. You can't have both together.

Sure you can. It's just unnecessary and occasionally makes troubleshooting a little annoying.

> GFCI specifications were changed to Arc fault because everyone complained GFCI'S tripped too often.

GFCIs and AFCIs are two totally different things. AFCIs in no way replace GFCIs and won't protect against ground faults (unless the fault causes arcing). Maybe you mean switching a GFCI breaker out for a combo breaker that does both?

> I would love to replace all these stupid outlets and breakers in my house if it wasn't for insurance reasons.

They're there for a very good reason, especially the GFCIs. And frankly it doesn't sound like you should be replacing anything.

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ChessLord144 t1_j9mt6mo wrote

Refrigerators should be on their own dedicated circuit.

My guess is that, as your fridge has gotten older, it is drawing more power when the compressor kicks on that it used to.

It is also entirely possible that the fridge compressor has developed a legit ground fault that needs to be addressed.

The first step is unplugging or shutting off everything else in that circuit and leave it off to see if the fridge alone will trip the GFI.

One other question: are you plugging anything at all into the GFI outlet? How about the switched outlet?

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Mildly_Angry_Biscuit t1_j9mgwvb wrote

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gregra193 t1_j9m51ce wrote

The fridge should really be on a dedicated circuit and also not downstream from a GFCI. Fridge motors + GFCI doesn’t always play nice.

If hot and neutral are truly reversed, you probably have a black wire going where a white one should go…somewhere on that circuit. The GFCI should be wired so it doesn’t protect things downstream. If not possible because one of those outlets is close to water, I’d really recommend a licensed electrician.

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Guilty-Ham t1_j9m3hzg wrote

It needs an island vent. It offsets under the window and by code you cant offset below flood level rim of the fixture. To vent without the offset would require it to rise straight up which it can't...obviously.

You don't purchase an island vent, you have to oversize the drain and loop the vent from the sink apex back into the oversize pipe, in this case, it should be a 3" drain. here is an illustration https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fterrylove.com%2Fimages%2Fisland_vent_1b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fterrylove.com%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Fthreads%2Fisland-sink-venting.43049%2F&tbnid=H1dkqasDSFGZrM&vet=12ahUKEwipjuPqoar9AhURh-4BHeknA4gQMygBegUIARDLAw..i&docid=8ppTsAUDa6_OhM&w=512&h=459&q=island%20vent&client=firefox-b-1-d&ved=2ahUKEwipjuPqoar9AhURh-4BHeknA4gQMygBegUIARDLAw

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zedsmith t1_j9lwiw6 wrote

Ask the person selling it to you what adhesive the manufacturer recommends.

It’ll be a flooring adhesive, but (hopefully) it’ll be trowelable and sold by the bucket, which I prefer over liquid nails.

And yeah, pin nail to hold it while the glue cures would be nice.

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time_spent t1_j9lsfeq wrote

I just had a similar issue where the end outlet read hot/neutral reversed (even though correctly wired at the outlet) and GFCI kept tripping. It was caused by mixing up the supply neutral (bottom) with the outgoing protected neutral (top).

Check supply hot/neutral are both on the bottom connectors and the protected run hot/neutral are on the top.

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zerohm t1_j9lnm9x wrote

When you say "the circuit loses power", do you mean it trips in the breaker box?

The GFCI will only trip things "downstream" if they are connected to the "load" terminals on the back of the GFCI. If they are in parallel, the GFCI will not trip anything other than it's own outlets.

Is the refrigerator on the GFCI? It would not surprise me if the refrigerator didn't trip the GFCI when it was young, but as it got old the compressor kicking on started to draw more current (to overcome more friction as parts age).

Regardless of all that, I would probably address the Reversed Hot/Neutral issue first.

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