It's not just the cats, it's the precious metals inside the cats. That's the prime reason.

Just checked, Walmart is $7.88 for 12p Grape Fanta. They probably have Great Value brand but don’t list it online.

oops I meant to say "assigned" VIN. A reissued VIN would imply it came back from the original manufacturer

You think 7 million is a lot of money on a state level to serve the needs of 3.5 million people?

Might catch fire, too; when the glue heats up.

Maybe instead create a private cause of action? Let the owners of stolen catalytic converters file massive, ruinous lawsuits against companies buying them, with additional damages awardable to the local police department where the converter was stolen to compensate for their time dealing with / tracking down thieves.

Might be tough to track down the buyer, but if both you and the cops get a ton of money when you do, then everybody would be motivated to put in that effort.

(This could work for any stolen auto issue really - somewhere up the chain is a legitimate business and the owners of that business really don’t want to get hit with multi million dollar lawsuits for trafficking parts)

First of all they are innocent. A) our criminal Justice system is based on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law and b) in case you missed it in my comment, I am referring to a case where a car owner comes up and sees someone near their car and THINKS they are thieves despite the fact that they are not. If I drop my keys and they roll under your car for example. In this case they definitively ARE innocent in every sense of the word.

I have seen plenty of videos of the use of deadly force. How about the one where a police officer shot a kid holding a pear because he thought it was a grenade? There are plenty of videos of people being killed because the person with a gun THOUGHT they were in danger but they either due to a lack of training or just the fact that humans are fallible, jittery idiots on the whole, are capable of making split second mistakes, Including “trained” individuals. And given the current “training” required to be a gun owner is a power point presentation, a multiple choice test and firing a couple rounds in a gun range, I wouldn’t exactly consider that adequate training. You can claim you want gun owners to be better trained for real world situations, fine I can agree with that, but you cannot deny that they currently ARENT and taking woefully untrained people and allowing them and even encouraging them to use firearms in real world situations will, inevitably, lead to them making incorrect assumptions and decisions and will, inevitably, lead to them causing the deaths of innocent people. So I ask again, how many catalytic converters is worth an innocent persons life?

Ive never heard of a "reissued" vin

Maybe instead create a private cause of action? Let the owners of stolen catalytic converters file massive, ruinous lawsuits against companies buying them, with additional damages awardable to the local police department where the converter was stolen to compensate for their time dealing with / tracking down thieves.

Might be tough to track down the buyer, but if both you and the cops get a ton of money when you do, then everybody would be motivated to put in that effort.

(This could work for any stolen auto issue really - somewhere up the chain is a legitimate business and the owners of that business really don’t want to get hit with multi million dollar lawsuits for trafficking stolen auto parts)

Sure. Not sure what point your trying to make here pivoting to EVs though.

Ask the Electric Companies, and The Municipalities. Nationwide, Copper gets a good price, and the Electric Companies have a terrible time with theft of copper wire. People have been known to sneak into Electric Substations, at night, and steal Copper (and perhaps, aluminum) wiring, because of the price it can get, at the scrap yards. It was so bad in Ohio, that The State passed a law, requiring that anyone selling Copper wiring, to the Scrap Yards, was required to "sign off" when they receive payment for it. There was a case, in my hometown of Columbus, where a thief cut down a utility pole, in the wee hours of the morning, to steal Copper Wire from the lines, and perhaps the transformer; knocking out power in the immediate area.

People have gone into vacant homes, and rented Apartments, and "gutted" them, of anything that can be passed as scrap. I've seen storm sewer gratings, and manhole covers stolen, as well as street light wiring boxes, vandalized. The thieves take the Aluminum Covers, exposing the wiring, and maybe take the wiring, itself. This exposes the wiring to The weather, and Children. Iron and Steel doesn't bring a high price, per pound, but a 100-pound Sewer Cover, can net you, $5.

Agree 100%. Let’s get the EV drivers to pay their fair share.

you guys are all over the place lol. we aren’t talking of funding investigations. we’re talking of funding gun violence programs. 7 milli should be plenty!😄

I’m down with charging EV’s a road tax for recharging at gas stations.

Maybe instead create a private cause of action? Let the owners of stolen catalytic converters file massive, ruinous lawsuits against companies buying them, with additional damages awardable to the local police department where the converter was stolen to compensate for their time dealing with / tracking down thieves.

Might be tough to track down the buyer, but if both you and the cops get a ton of money when you do, then everybody would be motivated to put in that effort.

When criminals obtain ammo through illegal means, it means they illegally bought the ammunition from someone who bought it legally. No one is making their own bullets

Hear Hear!!! Well we already have the added tax on ammunition. Hmmm. Let’s tax those well-healed EV owners for the roads they use. Let’s get those roads safe and stop exploiting the poors and their fossil fueled death machines.

It’s not that much money. It’s like 7 million dollars annually across the state. How much money do you think a single gun trafficking or shooting investigation costs?

There's a vaccine trial for Lyme going on right now. There were ads all over my FB and reddit a few months ago. Pfizer, I think. They may still be accepting volunteers if you're interested in that kind of thing.

what?😂 we’re talking of law abiding citizens forced to pay ADDITIONAL unlawful taxes on the guns they use responsibly to fund programs to prevent your little brother from walking into school shooting kids in the face. thats like adding taxes to alcohol because a minor got caught drinking at a party. so because he drank as a minor and broke the law we should pay additional taxes to fund a D.A.R.E program?

geez talking with connecticut far left dems is like trying to teach a brick wall to play basketball. some of you guys in here have no problem making yourselves sound brainless all on your own!😂

What if the government decided to put a tax on everything you posted to social media?

I bought a 12 pack of grape sodas at stop and shop and it was $10!! Crazy

I’m getting fleas because I have a lot of guns? Interesting, I didn’t realize that’s where they came from.

American Thinker provides cover and a platform for whacko extremists. Its a garbage disinformation site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Thinker

>Faced with a lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems, Lifson acknowledged that the site had relied upon "discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories"

>...the site had in 2014 published a complimentary piece on white nationalist Jared Taylor and in 2015 asserted that rainbow-colored Doritos are a "gateway snack to introduce children to the joys of homosexuality

I will however, enjoy this thread.

This is a very shortsighted opinion that isn’t even supported by basic facts.