And Calvin Ball is trying to convince people he is not corrupt and unethical!

> Crime went down if you don’t consider illegally entering a country a crime.

That's just flat-out false. Howard County reports crimes in accordance with the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting program. You can read the data collection guidelines for yourself.

Crime rates are an apples-to-apples comparison because they use the same standardized metrics. The crime reports are published online here and contain data from 2014 to present. Here's all of the data for you to see for yourself. Crime numbers, using the exact same standards year-to-year, are dramatically lower.

You're entitled to your opinion on immigration but bad-faith strawmen don't help your argument.

No thanks, I can barely deal with reddit asshattery as it is. If I go on Twitter too I'm done for.

He has always been a moderate. Fail.

Great news! Americans who want American Laws enforced what a concept.

I like that this issue is on the ballot as a referendum. But what happens if the referendum fails and the county exec and council still make HoCo a sanctuary? Everyone should be alarmed if this situation comes up.

By whom? Check out twitter bro. See GOP politicians. See fucking Trump

Take note of the name Adler on this report, too. 😏

“Ideally more diverse types of home such as apartments, townhomes etc, so middle class folks can afford them not just endless McMansions contributing to sprawl.”

Agree wholeheartedly with this, though I do wonder about the thought process and planning/consideration that goes into approval for each development, with regard to environmental impact, impacts to schools, transportation, etc. I mean, it seems this county has to redistrict every couple of years, and old EC flooded twice since I moved here (in 2016), which leads me to believe that the planning in these areas has been insufficient or inadequate. Given that Kittleman was the former CE and Ball was on the council, and from what I understand, voted for this development, it doesn’t make me super happy that they are the options for CE (though this crappy planning probably began before them).

People want to move and live here, and so we need housing options for every budget, but we also need to plan the space around that housing in a responsible manner in order to avoid becoming San Francisco or MoCo. If the county council has indeed been working on this in a thoughtful manner, it would be nice if they made this information more available in an easily digestible way to the public.

Thanks for the recommendation, it helps when someone has firsthand experience. Much appreciated!

Well, my next suggestion was going to be perhaps bringing in someone like KidzArt to run a kid-oriented activity in that adjacent room. (I’m not affiliated with KidzArt except that my kid loved attending their programs when he was younger.)

“I'd like to see a Rouse-like approach for the 21st century, rather than copying the copycats in the way we've seen so far”

Me too! Columbia seems as though it was well thought out with regard to its infrastructure (roads, walkability, village centers, schools, etc.), coupled with the different housing options that made this county more socioeconomically diverse. The different housing options blend well too… the only outer Columbia example I can think of is Waverly Woods. It would be nice if the remainder of the county (EC, Elkridge, etc) could be retrofitted similar to Columbia.

Spotted the imperialist pig

Well that's the thing. This doesn't just apply to the police. It applies to all social services. And none of them are actually enforcing the federal law. Only the federal authorities can do that. Hence Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Let them enforce the laws and receive no help from the county.

bro if you seriously think the us government cares about the well being of immigrants and that they want to improve the immigration process idk what to tell you

You’re right, it doesn’t make people legal citizens. It prevents the County government from enforcing a federal law that they have a duty to enforce

The Liberty Act won't make anyone "legal" or not and as far as I know it won't interfere with any process they're going through to do things the "right" way. It simply prohibits county services from sharing immigration status with ICE and allows normal people to live their normal lives without fear after any sort of contact with county authorities.

The bullshit process that’s been refined over decades to ensure that the people coming into the country are who they say they are? You must hate the application process for jobs, getting a license, getting a car loan, a house loan, etc. It’s annoying, sure, but there’s a reason behind everything.

And if the process is so complicated and pointless, why does every country in the world have a similar one in place, and why is the solution open borders instead of streamlining the process?

because ice targets hispanics

One less person had to go through that bullshit process just because one person had to suffer doesnt mean everyone else does

we need to lock up workers!!!

awesome! lock up families!

Look all I’m saying is that pretending something isn’t illegal doesn’t change the fact that it is. Every time I hear about Howard County being a “sanctuary county” I’m reminded of the town hall a couple years back where an immigrant from China got up and said “Why did I have to do it the right way and they don’t?”

oh no people are trying to have a better life

Crime went down if you don’t consider illegally entering a country a crime. Unfortunately federal law does consider it a felony

They're a troll, ignore them.