Recent comments in /f/BuyItForLife

nozelt t1_izpgl73 wrote

It’s not as simple as that. You’re having some shitty manufacturing across the world it’s hard to say hey let me pay more for higher quality… they’re gonna say sure absolutely and make the same thing, or maybe not. They do it because there is a market for the cheapest product regardless of quality, so why bother if their target customer doesn’t care.

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Sometimes_Stutters t1_izpckld wrote

Oh this is where I can shine. Design/manufacturing engineer.

So the three variables are materials, processes, and tolerances (design and employee skill are the 4th and 5th but we’ll leave that alone).

Cheap stuff have cheap materials and generous critical tolerances. They also skip some processes that contribute to quality (aka-reliability, but that’s a slippery topic).

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BoilerButtSlut t1_izpb567 wrote

I'll give a simpler explanation: most consumers just don't care about durability as much as they say they do.

Here's a fun experiment you can do: ask a friend of yours how much they would be willing to pay for X appliance that lasts 20 years. I guarantee that number will be well below what that kind of appliance actually costs.

My wife's family thinks I'm insane for much I spent on my appliances even though I tell them it will last until I'm retired. And they are not poor.

Durability/longevity are one of those things that people talk about but never put their money where their mouth is.

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BoilerButtSlut t1_izp9bfb wrote

Planned obsolescence isn't a thing. It is a myth.

I am an engineer and I know dozens of other engineers across multiple industries. None has ever been asked or told to make things fail faster.

Even your own example doesn't really work: the lighting industry moved from incandescent to LED despite LED lasting much much longer. According to planned obsolescence that cannot happen.

It doesn't even make sense: if I have something that breaks immediately after buying it, why would I go out and buy from the same manufacturer? It just sends people to their competitor.

You can also find long-lasting appliances or whatever without issue. Again, planned obsolescence says that shouldn't happen either.

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daHollerBoy t1_izp8aqh wrote

I've had Dickies, Carhartt, even Craftsman tool belt suspenders. The clasps universally suck.

Was at Duluth Trading Company and saw some that bragged how they hook under the belt. I'm a Boomer but will never, ever, ever simultaneously wear a belt and suspenders.

I think I'm getting some for Christmas that attach to belt loops and look forward to this.

BTW suspenders are a godsend. I'm thin and pants always slide down when I'm working. Along with bib overalls they're the most practical and comfortable things ever.

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thequestforquestions t1_izp6v2m wrote

So you want a company to willingly make a product they make 25% more profit on but instead of customers having to buy another one within a year, they buy another one in 4 years? Do you see why this is a bad business model?

I’m not saying I disagree, but given your post here I think you understand why they do it. A company needs profits to compete. If everyone buys a product that lasts forever, you eventually run out of customers.

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throwawayinthe818 t1_izp52jf wrote

I used to work for a company that made consumer products. At the beginning of the product cycle, the marketing people would tell us they needed, say, a $4.99 item, a $7.99 item, 2 $14.99 items and a big $49.99 item. That comes from the retailers. From there, everything is developed to meet that price point and the required margins for us and the retailer. I’ve literally sat in meetings where they cut out the one thing that made the product special just to save a nickel on the ex-factory cost. Then they wonder why it didn’t sell.

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s1rrah t1_izp4pj5 wrote

I'm the same way with RedWing Iron Ranger boots. Life boots. God boots. I'm 55 years old and I'll die with these looking as raw and pristinely useful as they do today.

Saddlesoap wash once a year. Mustang Paste (horse oil out of Japan) once a year after the wash. Set it and forget it.

My collection thus far, those owned and those previously owned:

Brooks Bros 4556 Limited Edition Iron Ranger (out of production / hard to find and spendy)

Black Harness 8114 Iron Ranger (the classic)

Beckman Klondike 9060 Limited Edition (Japan order only / rare)

Redwing 8059 Oxford (Derby Shoe) (nearly impossible to find)

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Like your satchel, there is just something uniquely satisfying to know that you own a bit of functional clothing that will last longer than the body that employs them on a daily basis.

It's a good metric via which I chose to spend my money on something or not. lol.

Unless it comes to computer equipment. Then I just go crazy and basically plan on bankruptcy. LMAO.

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